U arent even proving the history of it jesus .
If there is no history i cant even argue against it.
Do you even understand a tiny bit how this all works.
I dont need to prove anything you need to
Oh yeah? I’m not proving the history of it? You know that, in any academic discussion, the side that claims something is the one that have to bring proof: that is the Onus of the proof.
I claimed that, in game, the radar can guide the Vikhrs, but then you came and started claiming it is a bug with the other one, after the balancing discussion.
So, you’re the one making the claim. The Onus of the proof is yours.
Rephrasing it: What proof do you have that it is a bug?
Your claim. So if you’re trying to pull that old internet card of the: “prove me god doesn’t exist”, you’re the one that needs to bring source, not me.
u are making a laughing stock of yourself honestly, you arent able to prove the funcionality of this situation if its supposed to happen or not, you arent even aware if the vikhers should be able to do this or not.
The fact that you are not aware if this is even something that SHOULD happen makes it a bug until proven otherwise .
Furthermore you propose the implementation of a feature which is possible not even real
taken the potentialy last bit of realism out of this game, suggesting a completly imaginary feature which might not even exist and then comparing it to another vehicle and missle which have no relation at all.
Nobody will take you seriously here, because you arent even able to follow the simple suggestion rules. Of providing the necesary sources.
I will sleep good knowing your fever dream will never be implemented since you arent even able to provide the most basic of soruces required to even get it implemented.
The fact you want me to prove that the vikhers doesnt have that ability is rididculous.
You sound like a 5 year old saying “the tiger tank in ww2 had a prototype with a 130mm cannon, prove me wrong”.
Bye, letting this thread die will be the most beneficial for everyone since you cant do anything either way
Five years old? Serious? That’s your argument? You write like a goddamn toddler, missing ponctuation and making ad homines and I am the five years old?
Let me put this in the most straightfoward way possible: to make a bug report on any historical issue you have to provide sources. You say I don’t have any property to be talking anything about this, so what Gaijin has to say? You can prove they didn’t made this intentionaly?
Don’t repeat the same bullshit about the A-G weapons with ARH seekers, as vikhrs don’t have them. Gajin would know that they are different.
Take your nap, and reading this or not, remember: I still will be playing with the Su-39, guiding vikhrs with that botched radar and killing Merkavas because their laser warning didn’t trigger.
Your requested proof it doesn't use radar guidance
https://www.repulestudomany.hu/folyoirat/2014_3/2014-3-03-0178_Szilvassy_Laszlo.pdf
[Development] Missile duels: fair play - News - War Thunder
You are not finding this information cause it doesn’t exist. Vikhr is a Laser-Beam-Riding missile.
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Oh well then you can go make a bug report using this, because you can’t tell me Gaijin didn’t made this on purpose, using their statement on ARH seekers, because, in game, the radar guided Vikhr don’t has a ARH seeker, and don’t act like it has one.
I keep repeating this: it is in the game already, I don’t have to prove nothing because it is already in the game. You and the toddler seen the videos I made.
If that is a contradiction or bug, it is your problem. Ask the managers, make bug reports, whatever. Gaijin did this on purpose with their own sources or they did not even know this exists. Whatever the case is, is their responsibility.
New models have been datamined, and the GBU-53/B appeared among them:
And something relevant to the discussion on the ARH guided A-G weapons:
This second model is oddly suspect, because in the place of the SAL+IR+ARH seeker, there is what it seems like a radio transparent cover for a ARH seeker.
You know something about this bomb and its versions? If one of them had only the ARH seeker?
That second one is definitely an ARH head. I do wonder if there is intention to bring in ARH agms to the game or have it operate just like an gps guided bomb? any 114Ls in the files?
On that interview with Bvvd, it was said that they wanted to expand AA power across all nations in the top tier. Systems that have separate pieces of radar and weapons. Maybe that is the reason they are considering implementing this in the upcoming year, as with so much AA power, CAS would have a much harder time in “farming” ground targets.
And there wasn’t a model for the AGM-114L, only for the GBU-53/B, in these concerns on the “ARH seeker case”.
To protect the seeker, it is covered before lunch.
After launch, cover is removed.
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In the European Canadian video, he said that the second model was the “NA version”. The GBU-53/B is used only by the US? If not, any other operator of this weapon also cover the seeker before it use?
Maybe these two also mean that before the launch, what would be displayed is the one with the cover, and after launch the model with the seeker revealed is what would displayed.
And that also mean that there’s only the three seeker version, not like the brimstone that has a version with only the ARH guidance.
There is no such thing. There is only one version of the GBU-53.
Other countries use it too, but it’s for the F-35A.
Probably it will be in game like this then: before launch it will have the cover, and after the launch the seeker is revealed, just as you said. No other reason for having two models like that.
And speaking on radar guided weapons… “the radar guidance on the Vikhr” is a bug or is it a very messed up feature?
The vikhr is a beam riding ATGM, so it should need a hard lock to be guided, just like the Khrizantema does, riding the radar beam. TWS shouldn’t be able to guide it.
It also shouldn’t “loft” as it does in the videos I made.
Vikhr missile is not guided by radar.
In this case, that the missile designator is slaved to the radar.
And this is affected by the radar scan rate, so the lower the radar scan rate and the target is moving, the harder it is to hit.
In my opinion, this post completely pointless.
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