Air and ground dev teams are different and have different criterias and different priorities when it comes to bug reports.
Come on bro, I don’t want to get very personal, but everytime there’s a request to “Fix” Rafale, there are always a hate for Rafale for getting a better “Treatment”.
Yes, I understand Typhoon is severely underperforming, but guilty trippin on French Bug Reporter doesn’t really help the Typhoon will get any better fix tbh.
This thread again slowly drifitng away from reasoning to fix MICA range.
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FIne, buff the MICA EM, the best ARH missile in the game by quite a margin.
But Aim-120C5s for the Typhoon will become required.
Just stupid that the Typhoon asks for Aim-120C5s and its “haha, looks at these guys, giant skill issue”
and the Rafale asks for MICA EM buffs that would put them onpar with the Aim-120C5 and its “100%, must be fixed, look how much the rafale is suffering, we have the most bug reports”
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Obviously, if MICA-EM get buffed, then AIM-120C-5 also needed for Typhoon, I never against it, I also bumped the request for BOL nerf to be reverted, so I really don’t understand why so much against a historical bug report, it’s like if I against any bug report regarding historical fix for British Aircraft. And nice with your strawman, in fact, keeping with this kind of attack to French Bug Reporter definitely will bump Typhoon issues that never solved by Gaijin up to this day.
A few French mains are probably the reason why we’ve not gotten a single bug report fixed. They have been submitting fake reports that are just causing issues with the main reports. The record was one guy submitted about a dozen for a single area of the Typhoons FM that is still actually underperforming despite a bug report being submitted to buff it 6 months ago (still sat acknowledged)
It should be noted that on the French discord server I have supported and hosted the thread for the Eurofighter to get AIM-120C since yesterday, so saying “what about us” on our threads isn’t conducive nor does it reciprocate the efforts we’ve also put in for you guys.
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Did everyone forget about the r77???
I know the guy you refer, but that guy already got what he deserved, he got banned for leaking the sekrit dokuments right? Does this guy would be automatic representation as the whole community of French Bug Reporter consequentially?
Fingers crossed it will.
But im doubting it. US mains are being vocal against the buff.
Just annoying the MICA has gotten a second powerful buff ontop of the fact the Rafale is overperforming so much. But we dont even get basic things like a working EEGS cockpit sight
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It was more than 1 guy, and every single bug reprot or thing discussed requires a dozen sources and hours of back and fourth to explain and justify even the most basic thing for the Typhoon, usually for a few french mains.
But do the same to the Rafale, you get flagged for being off-topic
Give the Mica EM its extra range but that’s because it should have already had it.
The 120c isn’t necessarily better then the 120b in the dev server:
- When at 5000 feet altitude (at mach 1.2) the 120b is both faster and has more range 5.6 miles more range infact
- When at 16000 the 120c is still slower but has 4.3 mile more range then the 120b
- the only notably larger range is at 33000 feet altitude which is 12.6 miles.
Essentially only use 120C at altitudes over 16000 feet while shooting at a target at or above you, otherwise the 120B is just better.
in reality the best loadout would be a 2 120c 6 120b loadout
most people in air RB are climbing then firing 2-4 missiles before diving and pulling away, those first missiles should be 120c, the rest of the time dogfighting should be 120b because at that altititude the 120b has more range and speed then the 120c
All that to say the 120c-5 is situational based on whether you should use it over a 120b
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Tbh this wouldn’t be a much problem if Rafale only got MICA fixes instead of FM fixes like the Supercruise speed (which I really infuriated too that Typhoon got denied as meme like “Marketing Lie”). But hey, Gaijin always had a plan.
An eye for an eye would make a world go blind, I don’t understand again doing this the same for Rafale would also get Typhoon problem get fixed, especially the main Bug Reporter I know mostly never had a problem with Typhoon Bug Reporter.
Isn’t the AIM-120C-5 still WIP? iirc, from YouTube Videos, it’s still underperforming compared to AIM-120A/B, I guess we should wait for updated dev server before to conclude any further.
Im basing the info on the data in the dev so if it changes it changes, but yea it underperforms the 120a and b at low altitude but overperforms them at high altitude.
Personally, I like that, which makes the 120c5 not OP, especially since it doesn’t have ridiculous range.
But yea in the end it’s subject to change.
My main issue is everyone claiming it’s a miracle missile or something with double the amraam range! In reality, it barely outperforms 120a/b at high altitudes and underperforms at low altitudes.
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Yeah, the Typhoon is underperforming in every single respect, but I dont see any FM fixes anytime soon because of the amount of fake reports that have been submitted over the past few months. Sorting the real from the fake is going to delay them months.
And then Gaijin cherry picking what data they “beleive” to be true is just annoying.
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MICA can be launched from any angle on the dev server : Warthunder
Find it interesting that this is not being talked about here.
That is the second major buff I was just talking about. They got a major off-boresight capability that makes the Rafale the king of WVR combat at the moment. Nothing can compete once within range of the MICA
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Thats crazy, 180 degree off bore hits
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can i change my opinion after seeing that, mica don’t need more range, its fine right where it is…
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They did and they made it worse, so now they have just completely forgotten about Typhoon.
Gaijin wanted ti make sure Rafale was superior to Typhoon they added a more modern version of Rafale with the best Radar it could have, the best power plants it could have. They have it more missiles the more advanced HMD system.
Superior CAS payloads.
Gaijin could have made an attempt to level it up.
But have actively made a choice not to