Guys I think we just need to add the J-10C with PL-15E to the game to fix all the problems. Rafale gets hard countered → MICA gets buffed (optional) → everyone is happy
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He’s just supporting the status quo because it favours him to do so.
He’s literally stated that he supports other nations getting buffed specifically so that france can be more justified in getting more buffs.
Arguably, things would be even more so in Rafales favour as it would stomp even harder against everything that doesnt have the 120C-5s.
The introduction of the 120C-5 is unlikely to put much of a dent in its performance seeing as its still so easy to defeat ARH missiles and force a merge, along with the fact the MICA has just been buffed to make it even easier for the Rafale to fire them HOBS to remain threatening while near/in the notch in a way no other jet can match.
As it currently stands, Rafale could get shunted up to 14.7 or even 15.0 alone just fine without any buffs, its just that good. It should never be allowed to fly against anything below 13.7. It wouldnt be the first time gaijins punted an overperforming plane to a new BR ceiling to try to curb its overperformance.
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So when do you think MICA EM’s range being fixed is justified if AIM-120C-5 isn’t enough? Only when the latest variant AIM-120D is added?
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When the Rafale stops massively overperforming vs all other jets it faces? Pretty sure thats been pretty clear this whole time? It literally has no competitors, no plane is even close atm in-game and you’re fishing for more buffs, as usual.
You cant even be bothered to wait and see if the new missile might actually close the gap to any reasonable degree between the Rafale and every other 14.0 before you start pretending that the Rafale “needs” another buff to stay competitive.
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Is it the plane that is over performing ?
Or just that the META allows for planes with better HOB missiles to perform better ?
Because let’s face it, aside from the radar, the EFT is basically on par with the rafale in all other metrics, or the differences aren’t enough that it would make the rafale massively overperform.
And in ARB, playing the rafale, most of the time my missiles will be fired using the HMD, not the radar in itself.
So the main difference between those 2 aircrafts lie in their loadout, that is, the MICA with a significantly shorter range but excellent high offbore capabilities than its competitor.
And this won’t change. Because the Aim120, the meteor and basically every other FOX 3, aren’t design with this philosophy.
Yes at some point we’ll get ASRAAM and IRIS-T (and MICA IR), but those are all shorter range than the MICA (EM and IR), so the rafale will still have the advantage in the ranges the MICA is that dangerous.
So, you are just saying you’ll keep coping because the rafale has a loadout that fits the META playstyle perfectly. Fair enough, but that won’t get you anywhere, and it’s getting so old it might be time to burry it.
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People can come and whine and be completely off topic, and nothing happens, but when you point it out you’re instantly hidden (although this one stayed for quite some time until specific people came to talk in this thread, so it gives a picture of who makes those report). You get used to it.
Not all people decide to not abuse the report button.
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As I said, I don’t think there will be parity (aside from the radar), because they have such different armement. Only maybe the British EFT could come close to the playstyle of the rafale with the ASRAAM.
Also, and no disrespect here, but the problems with the EFT is not really our problem. We talk about the MICA in this thread (unless some people comes and detail everything, as usual).
If you have issues with the EFT being nerfed, discuss it with TMs. They often can bump report with the devs.
Coming and whine about the EFT in French, rafale (or rafale related equipment) threads only use is to create conflicts. You are not ever going to make things improve on your side this way, as you should have realized after the Xth time doing it in the past few months.
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Anyway, @Surbaissemaxxing do you thing there could be a cleanup of the thread ? It’s clear it’s completely off topic and it’s not going to get better any time soon
If my comment gets deleted because I point out off topic comments, I’d rather see a moderator, at least I’m « En règles », doing things correctly.
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The issue is that the MICA have gotten 2 rather major buffs since their introduction and the AMRAAM has only gotten a few minor nerfs. Despite just as many reports outstanding for the AMRAAM.
MICA is without a doubt the best ARH in game, but AMRAAM is denied buffs" because it has the longest range" its really annoying.
Like im all for the MICA getitng a range buff if Aim-120C5 and equivalents are added to ALL top tier aircraft. But if MICA EM gets buffed to fight F-15Es, but the Typhoon doesnt get AIm-120C5s (like the US mains dont want it too get) then that would really really suck.
It’s overperforming in the sense that it’s statistically doing much better than the other 14.0 planes.
This argument also sabotages your request for a MICA buff though, because if the Rafale and it’s loadout fit the meta so perfectly, then there is no need to further buff it for the time being.
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And Smin basically just denied MICA EM buffs and Aim-120C5s for the Typhoon because of player stats. (Though I wonder how many F-15Es just J’ed out or died trying to bomb which screwed the data, they do it all the time in SB)
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Take a look at the ground kills per game played for each of the top tiers, fact is F-15E blows past the rest of the top tiers in terms of this ratio. F-15Es are focusing on ground pounding and thus serve themselves up as easy meals.
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You still haven’t answered my question. When should the MICA EM get its reports actioned on, when Typhoon gets AIM-120C? When AIM-120D is added? When exactly? Easy to say “when it stops overperforming” but you don’t give any concrete answers.
When it’s statistically in line with the top tier jets from other nations. Which it clearly isn’t.
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How dare Rafale players be good! They should be as bad as American mains!
To be clear here, your stance is that even if F-15E and F-18C gets AIM-120D, then the Rafale can’t get fixed MICA if it still is performing better statistically. That’s what that stance indicates.
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It’s Gaijin’s stance, has been for years. The whole AIM-120C-5 situation shows this again.
No matter how much the French mains cope, there just aren’t enough of them to change that.
Then you’re not reading it properly, I specifically asked for personal stances, not what Gaijin’s stance is.
I somewhat share Gaijins stance, just not as extreme. If the Rafale is already dominant it’s not smart to buff it even further.
Unless you just want to go back to the ways of old, where repair costs were used to balance statistics. This would mean buffing the MICA and slapping a 30-50k repair cost on it, but I’m not sure if that is the preferable way.