The M1 Abrams should be updated with the M833 or M900

How would a 2A4 with DM23 be superior firepower wise than an M1 with M833?

Sure it has like 15mm more pen, but it has a 1 second longer reload.

better post pen and better angle performance

1 Like

that isnt decompression for gods sake, its just compressing a different br.

can literally be killed by autocannons frontally

1 Like

Usually takes them a bunch of shots to do significant damage frontally except for the 2S38.

So if you die to a non-2S38 autocannon frontally it’s a player issue a lot of the times.

The recent changes to top tier were decompression because they moved the top BR up as well.

The thing is that 10.7 can still face 11.7 which still is 1.0 br different. Gaijin really need to reduce that down to somethings like 0.7 or 0.3.

at this point there is really no need to use the m1 abram. do you forgot that you can now see 11.7 tanks?. bro the m774 is an 9.0 tank rd on the m60a3tts. for any usa mains out there just use an 10.3 lineup. 10.7 is premium hell right now, the 120s is one of the best tank at 10.3 with m829a1 lol an 598 pen rd at 10.3 and 9.3 in downtiers. plus you can use the m3a1, stkiter, ccvl,lavAD, m60ambt and the best cas in the game at 10.3. stay at 10.3 if you want to have the most fun at semi top tier because trust me it only gets worse from there.

3 Likes

Sadly, accurate with the M1 but I challenged myself with getting every vehicle in the US tech tree spaded and all skins unlocked (that I can do without money). Still silly that Gaijin won’t fix it because of enter some random excuse from them

2 Likes

except for the fact he literally just outlined a NEED for it above with statistics to prove it. the amount of weird double standard for American vehicles on these forums is WILD to me. and before you go and say “oh the abrams has the best mobility” it literally doesnt, the T-80 B and everything after it have on par if not better acceleration and top speed, turret rotation speed rarely makes a difference at this br because everyone turn rate is quite fast on average. and to boot, theabrams CANNOT pen the t80 frontally ANYWHERE except the lower plate and a tiny tiny pixel where the drivers port is. meanwhile the T-80 Bs shell has a whopping 53 extra pen at 0 degrees and 47 pen at 60 degrees.
Boy the advantages sure are stacking up for the russians.
All this before i even mention The BMPT SPAM, the Abrams straight up cant even fucking pen the unangled side of the terminators because M774 is so terrible. and if you dont believe me i have SEVERAL clips of it not penning, and replay hit analyses to prove it, its also just so easy to LOOK AT THE ARMOR MODELS YOURSELF AND STOP PRETENDING THE ABRAMS IS GOOD. EVERY TANK AT THE SAME BR CAN LOLPENN THE ABRAMS FROM THE FRONT AT ANY ANGLE Let american players have fun for once holy shit.

1 Like

image
Fun fact, I’m actually debating with another person in another chat about this. This is the KD over the past 7 months when compared to the T-80UD and T-80B. Stats are pulled from statshark

it literally wouldnt make it 11.3 because it would bring it on par with (in the case of m900) or slightly still worse (in the case of m833) than the rest of its own tech tree and the other tech trees it fights. i know you are extremely averse to the idea of american vehicles actually being fair and enjoyable to play but ww2planes is hitting the nail on the head here and you are coping if you think he is not

isnt it funny how these trolls who constantly forego actual facts and observable realities to justify USA tanks (especailly the abrams in question) constantly being nerfed to the ground are alwasys die hard russian mains who have rarely if ever even played an abrams for a single match. I find that interesting

TO anyone wondering… go check teh armor profile of the first abrams vs 3bm42. THE ENTIRE VEHICLE IS GREEN

That part that cracks me up is the ones that played them well over a year ago and go “it’s fine” as if we didn’t have a BR change and have new vehicles added around that BR that make the M1 almost useless. Hell, I’d take the 120S over the original M1. For the longest time, I would run the M1A1 with the 120S until I got the IPM1. Currently working on acing the T-90A and it’s like a walk in the park in comparison by how easy it is to play. The only time I’ve died is either a good flank or I placed a shot poorly with the MANGO round.

waht do the red boxes mean? no data or just too low to count lol cause id beleive the latter with how bad 10.7 usa is rn

what* believe* im typing too fast lol

It’s the worst performing of that month. Just did that to make it quick to identify.

dude russian 10.7 -11.7 is literally a win button right now, i talk shit about the terminators but i feel kike im allowed to because i own one of them. Its utterly ridiculous how easy it is to play especailly when compared to anything america has even up to 12.7… the terminators just destroy teams. There is genuinely no reason to play any other nation but russia right now past 10.7. I have been doing destroy 10 uniots wagers lately and is traight up cant finish them when playing US but on Russia (with t90, bmpt72,t72c3,t72arena, and 2s38, and ka50) its a literal walk in the park.

i even find myself commentating to myself saying “lol im clearly better bc ur american and im in a terminator” as i tank 6 shots from an abrams and lolpenn their turret ring with a 30mm autocannon or “lol you thought you could have fun in an american tank, ur dead” i feel like im losing my mind rn

yeah see bro thats what im talking about, and people on this forum will just say “its fine” or “this is clearly rage bait” not taking you seriously at all despite teh observable truth being that the abrams is FAR WORSE than almost every other tank at its br right now. and then they bring up single stat points like “bUt ThE TurRett ROtation SPeed”. and this inst just a problem with the abrams its been an issue with the US tech tree in general for long time… and i mean a long time. The germans used to have the m48 at 6.7 while the american one was 7.3 for instance. antoehr example thats actually current is the fact the xm264 is 8.7 without apds but the gepard and other gepar-like vehicles are 8.3. just doesnt make sense. Also the fact theres no spall liners in even the MOST ADVANCED ABRAMS in the game. I ould go on and on and on but for some reason it falls on deaf ears… or worse, ears that straight yup just want USA mains to suffer constantly and for no other reason than the fact they are Russian mains.