muss 2.0 is not planned on the 2a8,. neither is the odaeon.
Only lws currently
nup, germany has heavy skirts and norway has those containers.
They have different side skirt configurations
Germany most definetly has those same containers, there are just no pictures of them floating around and im not going to loose my job and take some for u
they might have, still germany uses heavy side skirts, which norway doesnt
https://www.hartpunkt.de/leopard-2-a8-bundeswehr-bereitet-bestellung-von-75-zusaetzlichen-kampfpanzern-vor/
Furthermore, Norway places greater emphasis on weight reduction, which is why—unlike the Bundeswehr—it has opted not to install heavy track guards, and while underbody mine protection is technically possible, it has not yet been installed. While the German 2 A8 was equipped according to the D-LBO basic standard, its Norwegian counterpart is equipped with corresponding national radio technology and battle management systems.
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“Schwerekettenblenden” are not the “boxes” on the sides those are "(Schwere)panzerschutzkästen, the thin side skirt that is present since the leopard 2a5 onwards is the “Schwerekettenblende”.
What the post you linked states is that the NOR config does not use the regular side skirt, wich is what is said preiviously, “The basic side skirts on the Leo2a8 are actually slightly less thick to save weight”. But i can confirm that on the GER config the two extra “boxes” per side are just storage and not infact armour
Is the 2A8 variant added for Sweden once again better and more heavily armored (like the Strv series) than the German 2A8 variant?
its not a strv, its a norwgian 2a8, same armor
the german one gets better sideskirts
And the german rollout model doesnt have the lws yet, since we havent installed it in reality either
The core point. On hartpunkt.de, KNDS Germany and Hensoldt showcased the Leopard 2 A8 combat tank with a novel protection system. This report provides an introduction to the A8 of KNDS at the 2026 European International Defense Exhibition, clarifying that the laser warning system of this A8 originates from this system.
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it does in fact not, cause the 2a8 system shown of on the eurosatory with the odaeon system still had the elbit (isralian) lws system and not the hendsoldt lws parts
literaly says its for a 2a7
They just put it on a 2a8 for show instead of additionaly placing a 2a7 next to it.
You guys realy need to start reading articles befopre posting them
That would also allow for the release of version 2a7muss2.0
odaeon, better then muss 2.0
but yes would be another intresting vehicle basicaly LDRICCM, but thats for the future
However, the production model 2a8 in service in Germany seems to be equipped with a laser warning system, which is the ODAeon + Muss2.0 type. This is because the Muss2.0 model does not have the necessary compatibility to be used with German equipment. So, the laser warning system was removed first and then the unit was directly taken out.
There is no 2a8 in german service, there are as of today six Leopard 2a8s deliverd to the bundeswehr one to the Amt für Heeresentwicklung, one to the BAAINbw and four to a PzBtl for testing, they are not in active service yet and all six are pre production models. Additionally NONE of them have any kind of LWS installed since like @dotSHINI correctly said Germany will not use the the isreali lws but a domestic one produced by hendsoldt wich will not come for another year at the very least.
there is no german variant with installed lws currently.
only eurosatory project show of, nothing to do with german service variant
gajin does not believe that those are storage boxes…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/FoysHwgjwH0n
just half a track
Man, they really favor Sweden.
This is starting to feel like the AESA all over again.
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I think the only possible trees are Sweden (Strv123 + Norway), Germany (themselves) and France (Dutch 2A8NL (TBDelivered)). All of the other planned operators aren’t subtrees.