The Indonesian Hawk 209 Returns at a Discount for the Hawk’s First Flight!

nice little surface changes at least.

the F-14D is a literal copy paste job no matter lol

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We never re-painted them, they are still in their original colours! You can always slap some roundels to it. But the Mk. 66 in Swedish tree wouldn’t make any sense as it would have 9M but no RWR nor flares.

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Might be mistaken but didn’t Finland literally integrate the R13M to their Drakens?

Also why are you asking when we’re getting something to a game master?

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the harpoon isn’t real though, it was a popularized photoshop.
another different is 208 has access to AIM-9L/M other than predecessor 9P, while 209 get to 9P-4 and 9P-5

and another thing the 209 should have SELEX SEER RWR, an upgrade from SkyGuardian RWR

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What if it gets 9B? If I’m not mistaken it wouldn’t be the first case of a plane getting 9B instead of a later sidewinder as a balance measure

would be better to not get a missile at all at that point lol

Well at 8.0 a bunch of 9B might affect the BR yeah

I’m sorry I made a mistake. That’s exactly the missile we had and NOT the R-13M1. I wasn’t directing it at the game master. It was just a rhetoric question directed at no one in particular venting my frustration about the butchered Finnish aircraft (The 109 G-6 is a fine example as well as it has MW-50 it didn’t have IRL.) and the copypasta in general…

Oh yeah that’s what the Finnish fishbed gets in the game, I should’ve guessed. Yeah that’s an annoying inaccuracy for sure.
Now that I think about it, would it be interesting to give R-13M to the XS?

It would be interesting as it might have more range than the RB 24J (AIM-9P3) we have in game. But the thing is that the AIM-9P3 we have is wrong. IRL the AIM-9P3 had an ugraded motor and has about the same kinematic performance (range) as the AIM-9L. What we got in game is a copypaste AIM-9J with radar slaving added, which adequately representes the P1/2. So if we had the real RB 24J the R-13M would be pointless on the Draken.

I’ve been wanting to make a bug report on th Fishbed for years but I can’t find any source. I can find plenty of sources that the FAF had the R-60, but there’s no sources explicitly stating that the FAF DIDN’t have the R-60MK (how could there be…). And they won’t accept a bug report which asks them to check their own sources (Of course they don’t have any because they copypasted the aircraft without any research.).

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