The Indian Nation & Air Tree - On the Wings of Vayu!

The Br’s aren’t finalised. The Tejas’s BR’s is largely dependant on several factors like Armament and AESA as well as preformance (all of the Tier VIII Tejas’s won’t have AESA ability. Possibly the Mk.1). The LUSH Br is incorrect. It would be BR 12.7 or 13 like the Sea Harrier FA.2. The Su-30K would be MKI unless that’s a different aircraft variant

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Yeah, I’d put a Mk 1 IOC II around 12.7-13.0 with R-73, Mk 1 FOC somewhere 13.x with adapted armament, and Mk 1A at 14.x with its never-ending list of armament and AESA.

Yeah, would be so peak. By the way my version has 2 early sea harriers, I included the T.60 so I could have a magic 1 carrier at a low BR and a magic 2 version at a high BR! That, plus the LUSH at rank 8 with ASRAAM

The Su-30K is the first batch of Su-30MKI received by India (now resold to another country iirc). They’re different from the MKI we know, much more basic Su-30 variant (with no canards for example) that would sit at 13.0 like the Soviet Su-27S

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Btw here’s my version (BRs are also imperfect and only rough estimations)

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Good to know. Though i’d probably make the T.60 a premium or event vehicle instead. The 30K could be a good gap filler. There’s other vehicles that are on my radar but i’m not sure if they are possible to add such as the Tu-142. And some that are currently proposals such as the Mirage 2000EG Mk.II from Greece which could be another potential Premium. There’s a few that i intentionally left out for various reasons. Such as the various evaluation vehicles (e.g Tu-22M) or for redundancy reasons.

I could lower the BR’s of the Protoype and pre-production Tejas’s but not the Mk.1A since that variant will get any of the weapons it would get in the foreseeable future since that is supposed to be the penultimate version

Just found out that Armenia now uses Iranian bombs on their Su-30’s so it would be unique. If only Armenian Su-30’s were modified by HAL to use Indian Munitions on top of the Iranian ones since they did asked HAL to modify their Su-30’s.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/first-iranian-firepower-upgrade-su30sm

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I intentionally left the Mossie and Hurricane out of my proposal mainly in case if a Tier III start becomes a possibility. There’s also a few vehicle placements that I don’t agree with such as the Kiran and BR. 1050 though that is understandable since you are basing it off of how Gaijin implements vehicles. There’s also a few vehicles missing but again I think that is intentional for streamlining reasons.

Otherwise it’s a well done TT

I also did that at first, but then I wanted a magic 1 variant while the FRS.51 had magic 2 so I picked it

Yep, pretty cool. It’s basically a Su-27S except it gets the extra hardpoints of later Flankers (at the cost of extra weight)

Yeah I only took the service vehicles and indigenous prototypes but there’s more we can add surely

Absolutely, the Mk.1A should be the top tier beast. I just put it 14.3 because it has a rather low missile count, but the top tier meta is gonna keep changing anyway so that doesn’t really matter

That’s good to know, interesting. I wasn’t aware of that

Yeah, I just Israelized my version for simplicity but those could be in rank 3 if we get lower ranks obviously.

I put the Kiran there because it would basically be a slightly worse strikemaster, and I only did it because I put the HJT-36 instead. But of course the Kiran could be tech tree too. As for the Alizé I made it “event” not as an event but because it would probably be a “special” vehicle limited to naval, so I set it aside (squadron also works I guess)

Which ones? Other than some forgettable MiGs I left out to limit the copypaste

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Indian Airforce Vijay (MiG-23BN) with wing mounted unguided rockets (not sure of the make)

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Is there any way to visually differentiate MiG-21MF from MiG-21M Type 88?

The Mig-21M is the Export variant of the MiG-21S so it would be closer to the Premium MiG-21S than to the MF. Even then the M is not a carbon copy of the S either since it uses a more antiquated radar suite and the gun is built into the aircraft unlike the S which can be detached (The 23mm on the S is a gunpod)

Keep this thread alive

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Sure, what do you want to discuss?

What indian vehicles def have to be added like hal tejas is part of the missing 4.5th gen before 5th gen

id say tejas and the su30mki are most wanted in game by players.
for me i would also add the jaguar as seeing a modern jaguar with modern weapons and aesa radar would make me happy

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yeah the astra would be pretty op theyr also upgrading the su30mki to have aesa

sadly its not true for both, astra is close to R77 while having a slight better long range.

while for the Su30mki part, sorry to tell you but they didnt upgrade the radar

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A Mirage 2000 with R-73 sounds pretty fun to me as well. And also the Sea Harrier with Magic missiles

They are upgrading radar right now for the existing su30s

Care to share a source ?

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