I do, and so far your claims consistently show you have no idea what you’re talking about. Either the F5 is not a jet you understand or you’re simply that inexperienced with aircraft that you have no idea what you’re talking about. Lest we forget your claim of RB24 being better than Aim 9B which had you bothered to check they literally are the same…
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i did not imply that the a7 could beat an f5, its just that the claim that the a7 is ONE OF THE ONLY PLANES that the f5 could beat is madhouse insane, i cant even man…
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The A-7 and F-4 are literally the only two planes I have ever seen lose to an F-5. All my of deaths against F-5 have been either 1v2+s, in my A-7, or in a head-on.
If you somehow struggle against the F-5 of all planes, then that is legitimately a massive skill issue.
As that other guy said,
I just got the F-4F and usually fight F-5C’s and they are lwk fish food, and I don’t even have any modifications.
I just wonder why you shut your ears and keep overestimating F-5C’s counterparts while underestimating the F-5C.
F-5C is an underrated jet that is disguised as an overrated jet while hiding behind ‘even more underrated jets’
I am really tired of ‘wdym it has AIM-9E’ bullshitting, so I really want it to get AIM-9J and go up to 11.0BR.
Using the knife which stabbed you as a weapon sounds wild…
In your theory, I think
If you somehow struggle against any planes which isn’t A-7 when flying the F-5, then that is legitimately a massive skill issue.
I explained that there are some other examples than A-7, which can’t beat F-5 at all…
Sir, do you really struggle when fighting against Harrier GR.3, Jaguar GR.1/A or F-111A while using F-5?
Man, your exaggeration about F-5 today is even worse than Alvis in a bad mood.
(Sorry Alvis, no offence.)
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Heck, even sticking with fighters. I’ve seen a clip before of an F-5E beating a Mirage 2K in a dogfight and then sustaining damage that should have killed them
Found it:
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Maybe Mirage 2K just damaged a non-critical area because of a skill issue(/s), while F-5E initiated plot armour :P
I misremembered the clip. He outturn fought a Mirage 2k and then rammed a J-8, but survived
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10/10 plot armour moments XD
“F-5 is a great jet, it’s just fighting a bunch of better jets”
Sir, that’s called a bad jet.
Aww yes, because I’m able to easily defeat a bad plane, and say it’s bad because of how easily it’s defeated, that means I’m bad
Absolute peak logic
Man, you are coping hard.
Not being #1 doesn’t mean that it is disqualified.
As I claimed earlier, there are some better jets than the F-5C in the current 10.7. (which is even more underrated)
Still, F-5C’s position in rank is counted from the front, is faster than counting from the back.
According to statshark, F-5C is currently(June 2025) scored #7(0.76) among 23 10.7BR jets in kill per spawn
And #1 is Thailand F-5A(1.07), which is identical to F-5C. (even with the same AIM-9E)
In [games played], and the [spawn] part, F-5C is rated #2 among 23, while only J-7D has higher numbers of games, which means F-5C is still one of the famous and favourite jets.
Look up, you constantly claimed that F-5 is a bad jet and can’t beat anything but F-4 and A-7.
And, ANY OTHER JETS WHICH STRUGGLE have their skill issue.
But, I think
If we thinks about stat difference between F-5A(TH/JPN) and F-5C(USA),
That sounds much more like ‘major skill issue of American main’ made you easier to frag F-5C than other jets.
I really can’t understand why you are claiming that the F-5C is an awful jet
When only NF-5A, J-7D or F-8E have better overall specs, and you can dominate the rest of them?
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Huh, what a surprise. The most popular nation for air battles, has the most popular plane.
Who could guessed?
Huh? You say that as if I’m claiming the A-7 and F-4 are the only planes that I can beat in an F-5.
It’s quite the opposite actually. A-7 and F-4 are the only planes that, when I personally play, I cannot beat an F-5 in. Oh actually come to think of it, there’s one more plane, the F-105.
Isn’t it strange that the only way to make the F-5 look good is by comparing it to the worst planes in Warthunder?
This is why I thought that I was simply bad at flying the F-5E when I first got it. It wasnt until the tech tree Thailand F-5, aswell as the Swiss and Norwegian F-5s, that I realized the plane itself just isn’t good.
The Chinese ones were too rare to encounter to make a judgement on.
Su-22, AV-8C, Hunter F.58, and Mig-21 all easily beat F-5 in a dogfight.
It’s kinda sad being called the 11.0 dogfighter, yet getting destroyed by 10.0s in actual dogfights.
If F-5C was really awful, their playcount wouldn’t reach 420k+ in June.
Look at A-6E, which is considered a dead plane and has only 54K playcount, even though A-6E is also an American jet.
It is true that F-5C is an old jet, but it still has teeth beneath it.
Well, minimum skill requirement of F-5C might higher than those missile spammer who takes free kill from flareless jets. Because you need to gunfight with EVERYTHING.
Sooo, in your theory
You flew some planes, and you had no problem while fragging F-5
Then you believe that F-5 are bad…?
In that term, AS A JOKE, I can also counterclaim that ‘XP-50 with air spawn’ was a bad plane
Because the majority of XP-50, which I saw, were skillless noobs who just followed the bomber’s tail and got killed by tail gunner or dive to shoot some ground target and crash.
:/
(Disclaimer: I don’t think ‘XP-50 with air spawn’ was a bad plane.)
Seriously?
Do you really think subsonic rubbish with f-ed up FM easly beats F-5?
Taken as the Thai, Swiss, and Norwegian F-5s are just as easy to kill, Im very confident it’s the plane that’s bad, not the players.
AV-8C has thrust vectoring. Just slow down a bit and you will easily beat an F-5.
whut?
If the F-5 does everything wrong and the others everything right, maybe.
1 turn and it’s dead in the water
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Then don’t try to outturn it, force an overshoot like a normal person.
It really sounds diabolical to me…
Both Norwegian and Thai F-5 are accessible via payment
Which means a decrease in the average skill level.
(Squadron one/Event one)
And if we consider this topic to be about ‘F-5C’, it feels slightly off topic to me.
Also, don’t forget that the regular version of the Thai F-5A(identical to the USAF F-5C) had the highest kill per spawn in June.
Man you are coping hard
If F-5 failed to kill Harrier when he took Harrier’s back
It is a skill issue of F-5.
Nearly 90% of Harriers will be just shredded by M39 after futile attempts to overshoot.
If both side has the same skill level, Harrier will gonna have no chance at all.
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Ok so which is it?
The U.S. F-5C is easy to kill cuz bad players
Or
All F-5 are easy to kill cuz bad players?
Sounds like you’re just really, REALLY bad at playing the Harrier.
Projection
You are the one who claimed that ‘Every F-5 sucks because I saw them doing sucks’
And brought up Thailand and Norwegian F-5 for supporting your claim.
I am telling you that those planes are generally gonna have worse stats because ‘everyone just can access them after pay’
Look at the gap between the statistical difference of the Thai F-5A and the USAF F-5C, which is identical in spec.
It seems that you only read what you want to read. Arrogantly.
200% ragebaiting moment fr.
If Harrier can easily defeat F-5C or F-5E or whatever you brought up.
Then Harriers would’ve 11.0BR, not 9.7.
Come on, Harriers generally fly even worse than A-7 if you don’t use thrust vector.
If you control it wisely, maybe you could win the A-7 but it will make no big difference in a dogfight against an F-5
And don’t forget that thrust vectoring with Harriers will drain energy at the delta level.
Overshooting F-5 while it is on my rear? While M39 is blazing its eye to shred my fuselage??
It is easier said than done :/
Go on. Doing it while in a dogfight is just a suicide attempt.
I can’t just understand your claim unless you are delusionally mistaken AV-8B (Harrier II) as AV-8C (Harrier)
Maybe then sounds more plausible.
If both side has the same skill level
The only way Harrier 1 takes a chance against F-5 is not dogfighting.
‘Sneakfire the sidewinder while being unnoticed.’
Of course, F-5 can easily flare it and pursue Harriers to punish if he has situational awareness.
Back to the original topic, F-5C could not be as good as it was. It is an old jet. Isn’t it?
But, claiming it is one of the worst jets in BR, which can beat nothing but an A-7, is at a batshit insane level.
It would not be the best. But still, it is better than the majority of jets in 10.7BR.
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The gen 1 harriers literally can’t pull hard enough to even do that. You quite literally can’t do anything to a not bad F-5 player while flying one. The gen 2s do have a chance because their FM is less screwed up, but they still aren’t incredible.
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