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idk, did it carry them? if so it should have them. f-16 gets 9js, i dont see why f-15 shouldnt have them unless it never carried them

I think he meant exactly that

whats up with ppl being unable to read today

that was an opinion
he never said that it cant carry it

there is a difference between saying:

we shouldnt have any r-60 holding mig-29 to begin with

and saying:

the mig-29 shouldnt have any r-60 to beginn with

Early 29s are in a very healthy place for them rn. Perfect BR where their flight performance still matters a lot and R-27ER carries for any missed R-60M shots

did you mention the Mig-29 and flight performance in the same sentence?

most 12.3 planes have better flight performance and everything, besides the 3rd gen fox-3 carriers, above you in br have better flight performance

loadout chart for mig-29b 9.12.
distinct lack of 27t and 27er. but r60 and 60ms are there.
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F-15C:

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then it should get them in game. going through the 9js on the 13.3 f-16s felt terrible enough, I don’t see why the f-15 cant go through that as well

mhhh its almost like iam advocating for the removal of the 27er on the early migs

and you wont get the 27t removed just becasue a nation didnt use it due to gaijins stance on that stuff

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it wasn’t compatible with the weapons systems of the mig-29b. it shouldnt have it whatsoever, but same with the r27er, gaijin loves to make stuff up lol

i wonder why a russian technical manual about the radar operations and weapon systems of the mig-29b have a distinct lack of mention of the r27t
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then you need a primary document explicitly stating that the compatibility for them was removed or that they arent compatible and then you can report it

not like there is a reason to use the 27t on the mig anyways becasue carrying the 27er is the way better option

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clearly becasue they just forgot about it

a black and white drawing of a troll face with a smirk on it .

and tbf the east german Mig-29 stuff also dosent mention them because they never bought any of them

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it literally never mentions r27t. While it mentions all other weapons. It’s the kh38mt all over again

for the people misunderstanding, excuse me
it’s very late
i meant to say that we shouldnt have mig-29s LIMITED to R-60s
because they were developed together with the R-73 in mind
to take those away from it is like taking away the sparrow from the phantom or the phoenix from the tomcat or the R-40 from the MiG-25 and so on and so on

see i was correct

@kizvy @Michael-IR

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I was in the wrong then. Happens

on me

Nah, 9.12B was meant to be delivered to “developing countries” so it was most likely limited quite a bit more than 9.12A meant for Warsaw pact or 9.12 for USSR military.

you have a russian version of it? Machine translation looks horrendous and makes my eyes bleed