The BM Oplot-T Is... Concerning

Literal screenshot in previous post being blown to pieces at least for me doesn’t look intact in one piece. But maybe for you it’s totally brand new perfect condition

Can you name one battle tested ‘‘proper’’ heavy ERA? Because that is clearly not any of Soviet/Ukrainian/Russian ones for sure. Altho Ukrainians probably did best job to mitigate that in their Oplot config.

“Гофр” has different composition than ‘‘Нож’’.

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Whatever happened on the background, happened without ERA going off, because the only damage on this thing is from bullet. If ERA did go off there would be signs of explosion on this particular piece. Or, to be more specific, this particular piece would be blown out of existence, because this ERA turns this copper into cumulative jet.

The ERA definitely did not go off here, the entire shaped charge is still intact.

Also remember the cover on Nizh/Duplet is supposed to be what stops bullets from hitting the ERA and setting it off, if you are testing naked tiles without any cover, then you might as well be setting fire to gasoline and being surprised

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You are really naive if you think that russian bias doesnt exist.

What makes you believe it exists?

This game

And because…?

Idk about Russian bias, imo there are aspects of the game where Russian stuff just sucks (top tier air) and other aspects where it over-performs. There are imbalances but I won’t call it bias to any one nation.

Well, for starters, as I have written before, gaijin with all their experience managed to “overlook” existence of 50 mm steel plate between ERA layers. The only way it could happen is if they did not want to see it.

For example one of the biggest imbalances is for nations that don’t use APHE rounds. In game APHE is not modelled that realistically. Leading to USA, USSR and Germany mainly to enjoy a fairly good advantage over other nations. Imbalances such as these are much greater than any perceived bias to any one nation

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But beeing so experienced, they managed to uncover some “sicrit documents” that show that there is gap between individual ERA bricks that is just big enough for APDSFS shells to go between bricks. Not to mention that by gaijin math one layer of this ERA provides 140 mm RHA equvalent, but 3 layers on the side provide only 200 mm RHA

Yes the gaps are there exactly to prevent total detonation. One of drawbacks of such era.
They wanted powerful hexogen to make good heat jets but didn’t want it to blow up the tank. Corners were cut

Yeah, gaijin found that info, but missed 50 mm steel plate in UHP that would make UHP just thick enough to reliably stop top tier shells.

You could put 500mm plate in xray but the whole ERA will never exceed it’s widely dicumented mangi penetration test. It’s basically capped at it’s current level by reality
Btw it’s the most powerful ke ERA in game. It just doesn’t have its irl critical drawbacks

You could, but this would immediatly make Oplot be able to tank top tier shells. So we would have ukrainian tank better than russian ones, because it will be offering same protection and firepower, but with good reverse speed, that is huge deal in this game. And, so it seems, gaijin could not allow that.

Mango test shows 400mm of reduction in penetration, no matter if you look at hull tests or turret.

In game ERA gives around 290mm reduction including all covers and dampeners.

Calculations here: Comprehensive Technical Review: BM “Oplot,” “Duplet”/”Nozh” Dynamic Protection System, and Modeling Deficiencies - #16 by ARC_Convoy_77


In game it penetrates two layers of era and is stopped by the first plate.
In reality it pretty much penetrated the first plate and went into textolite.
The armor of oplot overperforms in game.

In game penetration results can be fudged very easily. Because the hull is a volumetric mess, you can also make BM42 reach the very back plate of the hull composite easily.

On the turret the results are much more clear, BM 42 always penetrates the first plate of the base armour, stops in the cellular armour and sometimes even goes until the middle steel plate of the composite armour. While in reality it was completely stopped by the first plate of the base armour, without entering composites. two times.

It does not matter if some volumetric pixel allows you to achieve realistic results. The developer intended protection provided by Duplet is ~290mm, while in reality it is ~390-400mm. It is underperforming by almost 100mm. If you have your own calculations based on test footage and results I would be happy to review them and correct mine if any mistakes are found.

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