Considerign the F18C can sit at mach 1.10 try it at that.
also Ill say this once
as per the devs on the russian forums, stat shark is not reliable for discerning any form of FM or missile capabilities
As well as this, the F18C has ten AMRAAM’s. so it can fire more than once and crank out. its radar is better pretty good as well.
It’s radar is pretty average. Similar level as the F-15 but still miles behind the different esa radars like all the other mechanical radars at top tier.
I guess if we strap 10 amraams to an F-100 and give it the Hornet radar it would also be a good bvr plane at 14.0?
This “muh 10 amraams” is legit the number 1 cope point that people use to proof that the F/A-18C is supposedly a good bvr plane. If missile evasion would give rewards than the Hornet would have at least 1 benefit in bvr: giving the enemy free sl and rp.
You compared it to the EFT, the EFT radar is statistically the worst top tier radar ingame RN
The F100, is no where near as manueverable, or as fast.
You sound far, far too emotional over it mate.
Considering its the next top tier im actively working into right now, skipping over the F15C just to see how it ismyself.
I seriously doubt the 18C is that bad, people here just like to be extremely dramatic over it.
Like that comparisson with an F100 with a hornets loadout?
thats bull n u know it is xDD it may not reach mach 1.2 but itll still do fine at top tier, considering most the time im not flying past mach 1.14 anyways.
so yeah. I’m gonna stop here and move on mate.
I just hate it when people use bad logic. It is statistically the worst 14.0 and those statistics reflect reality. It’s incredibly mediocre when compared to the actual 14.0 aircraft.
But yeah this is just something you’ll have to find out for yourself.
EDIT: yeah the F-100 was a bit of a overreaction. Something more realistic would be the F-4F ICE, which has a similar radar and has a similar flight performance.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3EJG7s3lbGMe
I’m pretty sure that the AIM-120C-5 will remain as it is now
They’re basically asking for classified/somewhat sensitive information.
Just the classic gatekeep Gaijin applies whenever they think something is settled.
CC @Beeschurger @Morvran @SPANISH_AVENGER
“PLEASE DO NOT GIVE US SEKRIT DOCUMENTS!!”
and then beg for them. The duality of man is unbeatable
I suppose the 9X will have a worse turn performance than the AIM-9M and a full on smoke motor. Best method to get your racoon hands on American state classified info
funny
would have to sit with missile worser than R-77-1. as did before
but that time with different model
I dont wanna say that bug report is AI generated but it certainly has that energy.
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Imagine it wont change the results much.
Statshark has the numbers, now you cant judge a missiles capabilities off a simulated shot. But thats not what i was doing. I was trying to put into nunbers the raw impact speed has on perfomance.
I think theres misunderstanding. I didnt miss a thing.
All i said that was that bug report feels generated, not written.
Wouldnt be the first time bug report manager was doing their job horribly.
Sorry, but i just dont understand where this hostility is coming from.
I never even denied that current implementation of C5 is a 120A/B reskin.
But unless im not mistaken, dev server usually runs for at least two weeks, no? So it is still possible that it can change again.
It has been clear enough how they want the 120C5 to perform, it’s more than likely they will just leave the missile as is. Its your headstrong attitude on not understanding how they work that tends to lead some hostility.
So what’s it gonna be? Do I have to tag you again when the dev server closes and, suprise, they didn’t touched a thing after this couple of weeks?
Yes because the actual 14.0 air craft as i said should be up at 14.7 man , its player performance is skewed as well as theyre usually on both teams
It has substantially worse flight performance, how can you compare them? the F18C , pulls more, though ahs worse retention, has substantially better thrust to weight, HMD, etcetc
Whatever man, if thats how you see it.
If C5 releases live as it is currently, ie. pure 120A/B clone, despite bug reports on its issues, then obviously something went wrong and people should be vocal about it.
I just dont think that “being vocal” right now has any purpose. Making threads like “C5 suxs pls fix” has no impact on how it will be implemented.
The SLM thread is how i imagine the C5 thread should be like, these people are working hard on bug reporting the SLM.
Edit:
Fun fact, just learned over at SLM thread that bug reports arent handled only by tech mods, but also other staff.
Yet the F-4F ICE has better BVR flightperformance. It is both faster and gets up to BVR speeds in similar times.
Yes it pulls faster, but that isn’t important in bvr if you just shit out all your speed while doing so.
The latter affects winrate but not really stuff like K/D, which the Hornet is either the lowest or second lowest. The Finish F-18C has similarly poor K/D as the US one, maining that “muh US players” also isn’t an excuse for the bad stats.
The Finish F-18C does have a considerable higher winrate than the US one (53,3% vs 44,9%), but that similarly poor K/D (0.93 vs 0.90) indicates that it just gets carried in more games than the US hornet late.
If you manage the turns itll retain more speed in a harder turn than the F4F in my experience
Im not saying “muh US players bad” im saying that the player stats for showing its position, is due to the planes being on both sides, it means no matter who wins the match the US always loses (quite silly TBH but blame F14 for that)
0.93 to 0.9 on the sheer quantity of them shows the difference, though, there are substantially more (from what i can see) US hornets at top tier.
Again as we always say, the problem could be resolved with some damn decompression
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