The AIM120C5 has better close combat capability and better BVR combat capability than the previous model of the missile

You realise the amraams are brilliant?

MICAs are brilliant by the way you describe 120s.

120s are mid, doesn’t excel at any realistic scenario if it doesn’t have a decent platform to launch them, and only gets kills on its ‘comfort zone’ whenever your adversary is either new at the game/clueless/wallet warrior.

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That is very nice. Thanks for info.

People don’t like to hear it but the Aim-120A and B are mid. Overall, they’re good missiles, but after being the only ones hit with a maneuverability nerf, it lags behind in Fox 3 fights. And that’s realistic with how we initially expected it to go when they were first added. The AMRAAM- A and R-77 were to be the worst ARH missiles and everything else would be better at their own niches.

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Woah woah, they wouldn’t never compromise the integrity of the game to do that right?…….right? Lol

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As if they’ve never had double standards on stats.
On one hand they accept poor quality manuals/website advertisments or just straightup made up stuff for some, and for others is just the good old ‘we think this is a clear marketing lie’, ‘game convention, not a bug’.

Sometimes they do. Not aim120s tho, they never pul close to 35gs for most of the flight time

“Brilliant” is an exagerstion. Theyre mid, theyre worse than r-77-1, mica and aam4, pl12s are also better sub 20km because they can actually pull.

AIM120A/B nerfed times in several updates due to gaijin just hate them, making them the worst FOX-3 missiles. Now the same done to the AIM120C5, gaijin said they are “restoring”, what a joke. Additionally, gaijin are trending to buff something that preforms awful in reality, not only Russians but also Frenches, u see, rafeal and mica almost played a funny role in recent India-Pakistan conflict thinking of Indians are often bad at wars and weapon maintenance, however, the frenches like to exaggerate their military at most circumstances, which makes me wonder if the french-made weapon is so good as they claimed? Back to the AIM120s, they should be “restored” as snail they called themselves do.

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It just reflects that this chinese does not speak english are willing to doing something good and fair to aim120c.

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Does Gaijin mean that the AIM-120c5, which has undergone multiple upgrades and added a dual-pulse engine, is sometimes inferior to the A and B models?This is not a reduction, it’s pure discrimination and disgusting players. Your RFL is broken in India and needs to be strengthened. Do you want to add a button to make RFL a one-click victory?What’s more, the intentional weakening of the C5 missile to this extent will be a major disaster for the new SPAA of the United States, greatly reducing its air defense efficiency. Is it still necessary for us to continue playing this game?The Su-30 has to fabricate the non-existent KH-38 to mount on it, and the RFL fighter has fabricated a ridiculous MICA missile. We don’t need to play anymore. Is this how the United States, as the first air power, is characterized?I am filled with great anger…
Gaijin的意思是经过了多重升级增加了双脉冲发动机的AIM-120c5有时候还不如A和B型号吗?这不是还原,这是单纯的歧视与恶心玩家,你的RFL在印度被打烂了还要再加强,要不要加个按键让RFL一键胜利?更过分的是c5导弹被有意削弱成这样将会是对美国新SPAA的大灾难,会大大降低他的防空效率,这样子我们美国还有必要玩下去吗?Su-30都要编造不存在的KH-38挂载上去,RFL战机虚构加强还捏造了一个很离谱的MICA导弹,这样子我们都没有必要玩下去了,美国作为第一空军大国的特色就做成这样吗?我感到十分愤怒

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The based levels are reaching critical levels

Ye, what u meant is exactly what I want to say, u see.

I strongly agree with you and lets give some pressure to gaijin so they make thing right!!

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你說得一針見血

跟本蝸牛狗是從毛子的理想視角出發去看美國的東西
他媽的明明c5有更強的加速但竟然近距離可以比A和B慢,這是甚麼吃席道理
然後即使在遠距離也不過是比A和B快一兩秒。不單改掉c5的高拋軌跡還改c5的攻角
上個版本出的R771比R77加強超多
然後現在出的c5跟本不是玩家所期望的強度

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This is a little research done by DCS players a pretty enjoyable read and it does reference real sources, although the validity for game implementation is Dubious at best its a fun read nonetheless.
http://www.zaretto.com/sites/zaretto.com/files/missile-aerodynamic-data/AIM120C5-Performance-Assessment-rev2.pdf

there is some interesting stuff in there

I would like to see their sources

because even just section 3 with proper sources could be the basis for bug reports on both aim120a/b and aim120c
they list aim 120a as having a 6 second boost and 5 second sustainer while in game it is 1.7 and 5.3 seconds respectively
they also give the same duration for 120C booster but over 1000N more force

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There are references in the bottom. But still i would like to remind its a 10 year old document by a bunch of simnerds, although by my research there is a ton of conflicting info on the c-5 propulsion system WPU-16/B is a name ive seen quite a bit but i cant find anything WPU-6/B ive seen it in context of aim120a/b

I think aim120 should not be weaker than aim7 in terms of close range performance no matter what

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Russia’s R77 to R77-1 have been significantly strengthened in almost all aspects, and I don’t think the increase in AIM120A/B to C is reasonable, whether based on game balance or reality
是啊,俄罗斯的R77到R77-1在几乎所有方面都得到了显著加强,我认为无论是基于游戏平衡还是现实,AIM120A/B到C的增加都是不合理的

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