All that is - grounds for a report. Shouldn’t full stop the discussion when a discrepancy is discovered, rather the opposite.
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The point is there supposed to be different
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The initial question was this
And this
I have no qualms with speaking of if the ongoing conversation is valid or not in the case of IRL, but the IRL capabilities were not the question in this case.
The issue here is that a number of people drew from IRL data to state that the seekers are indeed different, which is currently false.
IRL these statements are true, but in WT they currently are not.
The AIM9P4 in the game does not appear to use a reduced-smoke rocket moto.
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Anyone know what kind of AIM-9 this is?
Am i blind? i do not see any
I have a feeling that the only plane which will have the AIM-9P-5 (at least in the US TT) will be the F-111F. The dedicated 'winder stations (3A and 6A) could only use up to J/N/P-style fins, mostly due to clearance issues. However, I think the other stations were eventually fitted for 9L/M capability.
Whatever it is, it’s missing the guidance, control, and warhead sections (assuming it’s a guided missile at all)
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look at the inner pylons
Oh that thing. Sadly i cant id it. I would expect one of the earlier variants.
Should AIM-9M be better at tracking afterburning targets? It seems that the IRCCM activates every time a flare is fired, which makes the AIM-9L better at rear aspect shots against afterburning targets, as it (mostly) ignores flares, whereas the AIM-9M’s IRCCM activates and a slight turn makes it miss…
That is correct, the IRCCM circuit will always activate in the presence of a flare. Whats missing is the flare rate bias and push ahead features that help to limit the time a flare can spend in the FOV of the missile.
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In-game this is the case, it should not be. It should only active the IRCCM circuit when flares are clearly launched behind target lead. A target in head-on or tail-on conditions would fool the IRCCM of he AIM-9M because it cannot tell if flare is target or not due to path of travel. IRCCM is fooled into thinking flare is the target or suspends tracking for too long with no push-ahead direction.
So my 1997 Harrier GR7 Manual has it at 192.2lbs
This my 1999 Harrier GR7 Manual then has it at 189lbs;
The my 2002 Sea Harrier FA.2 has it down to 186lbs
So continuous improvements throughout the years reduced the weight.
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Harrier GR7 Stores limit gives 90lb for a LAU-7A with 9L/M + LAU-7A at 276lbs so 186lbs for both by 2010.
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The only difference between AIM-9L and AIM-9M initially was the guidance section according to budgeting documentation. Whatever was modified to incorporate IRCCM likely added weight initially and was removed over time.
Solid state components don’t weigh multiple pounds, there would need to be a large increase in volume for that to be the cause of the discrepancy.
I thought it was all already solid state since AIM-9H