How do you see it coming from you at very long ranges when the new implementation would allow for launch ranges of up to 80km+?
Ground maps are barely 20km and most people when they see a rafale spawn are going to move away. What’s the FOV on Hammer-IR again?
It should be 86 degrees or so, while looking at 2km x 2km view of the battlefield which should be sufficient for warthunder size battlefields
Also should be smokeless almost, better to say reduced smoke engine.
Where is it confirmed it can see a 2km x 2km area?
I think DirectSupport had posted a source/image saying it was, I didnt get a good look at it before the mods removed it though.
My theory atm considering the wording from the other source regarding the acquisition being “several pictures” is that the IR imager takes multiple images and creates a 2x2km composite image, but I can’t say this for certain.
It is also stated in the other doc that the seeker is rather low tech with a wide FOV though, so it might also be that it has the requisite FOV for the 2x2km image when entering the basket, but requires multiple pictures to be taken as each is rather poor?
Replying to this here, but I’m almost certain the AASM IR can’t use adjustable angle of attack due to this specific bit of info in the AASM brochure:
From another AASM brochure
This doesnt specify all AASM’s can modify their AOI, and the AASM brochure is rather clear on the faft the IR one is designed to work with vertical AOI, which makes sense considering how it works.
The brochure specifically outlines the capabilities of the GPS variant and the IR version. It predates the laser variant’s first qualification test, so it reasons they all have the capability.
Why would SAGEM bother stating AASM IR is designed for vertical AOI if it had the same AOI capabilities as all the other AASM variants?
They just enjoy wasting time and ink?
Yes? Have you never seen how much word padding companies do to fill a brochure’s space with enough cool-sounding info as possible? SP_Sabre looks pretty right here
Its beyond rediculous the mental gymnastics y’all go through. Its exasperating 🙄
I guess in theory it could be possible the AASM IR has variable AOI and SAGEM is just trying to fill brochure space, but its easily the stupidest of explanations in this situation, and pretty effectively gets felled by Occam’s razor, with the more likely/simple explanation being that;
- SAGEM means what they wrote
- You are so resistant to anything that could be perceived as even the most minute of “nerfs” to any French equipment that you make up dubious explanations to try to justify not adjusting your position on the subject when presented with new information.
Its not even like a vertical only AOI would be a “nerf” either, since that is by far the most dangerous AOI for use in WT, as it mitigates the ground vehicles ability to use cover to hide, a makes SAM intercepts much harder.
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All the AOI in the brochure you referenced are Vertical AOI. The difference might be to denote that the flight path of the AASM is different from a lot of other munitions with IR guidance, which would fly straight to the target, instead of go up from above in a bell curve.
AASM Trajectory is already almost vertical in most cases, at a later moment I will report them
This is how it should look like:
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It seems the impact angle can be between 45 to 90 degrees, this article predates SAL AASM
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Mental Gymnastics is taking one small snippet as gospel, bro, when the same company claims different things all the time that don’t even really contradict it
The trajectory should be shaped similar to the AGM-45 & basic- JDAM ( minimum impact angle of ~60 degrees).
not that it matters much because a hammer fired low and long range will arrive with an angle of ~20° and one fired high and far will arrive with an angle of ~135° currently in game
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It seems like thrust is lacking on AASM as a GBU-24 will reach its target before a simultaneously launched AASM will. Considering how overpowered Pantsirs are right now and how proficient they are at intercepting ammunition, I thus personally find myself using GBUs instead of laser AASMs because of that.
