su30 should get 10x r77-1 and 2x r73 and it would be on f-18c late level
The R-77-1 outperforms the AIM-120 in both long and short-range engagements due to its higher thrust and longer burn time. However, in real combat scenarios, the AIM-120 is still likely to have the upper hand.
Carrying 12 R-77-1 missiles would add significant weight to the Su-30SM, impacting its performance. Meanwhile, jets like the F-15E and EF2000 can climb much faster and launch AIM-120s from higher altitudes at Mach 1.5+, greatly extending their missile’s effective range—something the Su-30SM would struggle to match.
So in the end, R-77-1 will help close the gap between R77 and aim120, but I don’t think it will be OP.
Or I could be wrong, and Russia is about to get the best BVR, CAS, and Air Superiority fighter in a single update lmao.
This is unrelated but I am strongly against the Su30SM getting Kh38 AGM because the jet itself is a massive upgrade when compared to Su34, which is already stomping GRB, and with the Su30SM being a different aircraft type than the Su34, it’s going to cost much less SP to spawn in as a 2nd CAS aircraft, meaning the enemy team on GRB is gona have to face 12 Kh38 AGM in total (from a single player btw) lmao.
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Still should’ve been an AESA F-15C to go with it. Maybe even an F-15SA to more closely match the missile count (12 total for the SA)
R-77-1 only outperforms the 120 when launched on braindead people not evading at all at range, like seriously, the second the enemy starts to turn around the R-77-1 bleeds all its energy due to the even higher drag than the base R-77 has
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I cant find any proof that su30sm can carry 14 missles
Move a poll/suggestion then. What I mean by all this my opposition to most threads regarding the Su-30SM is specifically all this issue is discussed by most western mains that simply based on “Yes, it should remove/get [weapon].”
I believe the R-77-1 and the Su-30SM are great additions, and if you, and others don’t like this addition, the best you can do is move people to show, maybe in a poll, your opinions, and there, is mine. The R-77-1, from what I could understand is around 3 to 2 seconds faster than the other missiles listed in the charts, how this makes the weapon ‘too op’ not considering the amount equipped in the Su-30SM?
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It bleeds speed. Its not outranging an amraam.
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Exactly, higher drag than base R-77 and 120
Oh noo the insanely OP 120 is now only Decently OP :(((((((
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Me neither, I’ll not go after, I’m a ground player and all this recent additions is becoming a problem to me and for any other ground player. I’ll move a bit out of the topic, some threads about the DevServer and the Su-30SM being capable to equip Kh-38MT and western mains asking for more air-to-ground to their planes as some way to ‘balance’ makes me feel a civilian in a city during a war.
Don’t go after balance will just cause more problems for balancing, like, again, how 3 to 2 seconds more faster is being ‘too op’ not considering the amount, while, other nations are equally recieving airplanes capable to equip more than 6 to 8 missiles?
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interesing aim120c we got in game
r77-1 will be slower than a120 50km after it got fired
Again an r77-1 will bleed much more when maneuvering. Dont fly atraight like a drone and youll be fine
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its in the files
maybe idk
but not in the game
not maybe, both 77s have higher bleed and drag than the 120
still i cant find any proof that su30sm can carry 14missles