T10E1 GMC: The Super M13

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How is this different in performance from the TCM-20 to warrant any of the BRs in the poll though?

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Would be an interesting variations to the US halftracks. However it needs to be the same BR as TCM-20.

My thoughts exactly, the TCM-20 is 4.3, while the highest suggested BR for the T10E1 is at 3.7.

Both the T10E1 and the TCM-20 is using 2x 20mm Hispano as their weapons and are both based on the M3 Half-Track. They should have more or less the same performance.

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Hmmm Super M16 I interesting, if you’re wondering why I said Super M16 it is because the Dillon Aero modified an M45 quad mount with 4 M134 7.62 rotary machine guns and if it was mounted onto a M16 chassis i would call it the Super M16 II.

I wrote this suggestion before the TCM-20 was added and I simply didn’t go back and change the polls. Unless there’s a seriously good reason for it, I don’t like messing with polls as that can screw up existing results. If you’d like to vote 4.3, just select “other”.

Why should the TCM-20 be that high anyway? AEC AA is 3.3, has 2x 20mm and actually has armour. Crusader AA Mk. II is 4.0, has 2x 20mm and actually has armour.

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The 404s provide over 50% better fire rate than the Oerlikons

Wirbelwind has a higher rate of fire due to having more guns.

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i’m quite sure the fire rate and velocity of these 20mm is a lot worse then the ones on the TMC-20 (plus the TMC is way to high br’ed anyway but not many people complain because not many people use it because of it’s complete lack of lineup)

edit: i’m finding conflicting sources on what the guns where, or oerlikom mk IV 20mm wich have a worse fire rate then M2 .50’s, a T10 with these would probs fit best at about 3.0-3.3. Or HS.404’s wich do have better capabilities and thus it would be a slightly worse version of the TMC-20 (because the non-elevated turret would probs cause some gun depression problems) that would work quite nice at 3.3-3.7. (i’m not sure it’s really better then the wirbelwind)

I am the milkman and I will deliver 20mm high-explosive milk to the door of your aircraft +1

I said this before on the old forums, and I’ll say it again, this gets a MASSIVE +1 from me, as this is something the US tech tree has desperately needed for a long time. I feel the T10E1 would probably have a 4.7 battle rating, since it’s a bit of an upgrade to the TCM-20, having worse turret traverse and gun elevation speeds, but a higher ammunition count, a higher crew count, a better power-to-weight ratio, and the guns almost certainly used the same ammunition as the AN/M2, which is great because 16 g worth of TNT traveling at 868 m/s sounds phenomenal.

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Any U.S. 20mm SPAA that can fill the ranks of III-IV are a MUST at this point.

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American version of the TCM-20. it would be really nice to have a decent mid rank SPAA. those 40mm SPAA aren’t exactly as good as the M16 for tracking aircrafts

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Yeah. They hit hard, but I’ve never had much luck actually hitting anything with them. I much prefer stuff like 20mm and .50 caliber guns. Rate and volume of fire over shell size.

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Much appreciated! I totally agree that this is a needed upgrade over the crappy 40mm things. It’ll do really well in-game and be much easier to use than the M19 or M42.



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Wouldnt it be rather an Super M13, since its 2x 20mm and not 4x?

These are some fantastic resources! What book?


Why didn’t I think of that?

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