T-90 series/Chinese ZTZ series tank autoloader/magazine position issue

Oh, but it is totally different for Chinese tanks. It is obvious that the ammunition of Chinese tanks is completely out of the range of armor in the game (very strange), which leads to that Chinese tanks have good main armor but not very good survivability. If it can be determined that there is a issue about the magazine position of Chinese tanks, then their survivability should be significantly improved by fix it.

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Yeah, its unfortunate. They weren’t super popular with players but Gaijin most likely moved them under the default naming system they have in an attempt to protect them rather than own up to the backlash.

The systems to provide feedback and submit bug reports feel pointless most of the time. But I am sure some Mod or CM will say “we take all feedback into consideration” despite there being such a laundry list of things they do in spite of said feedback and reports. And while managing at scale is a factor, it doesn’t kead to confidence in player frustrations heard. At least not when it cones to improving. Like players keep saying even after the economy rework and foldering, ground progression is still a slog. And yet, here we are. Still no improvement or acknowledgement.

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@TrickZZter Can you now identify this as a bug?

@Stona_WT will this issue be accepted?

No he can not.

lol, as always

Shh… We must not mention his name. All we need it to mention the T and everyone knows who u are talking about.

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Add some screenshots of Chinese tanks: as shown in the picture, there is also an issue with the autoloader position of the ZTZ96/99/99A, and its ejection mechanism ring of the autoloader is not on the axis of the cannon.



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by the way,the position of autoloader in T-72s’ are correct.

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@Smin1080p_WT Could you confirm this issue?

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@Stona_WT any reply for this issue?can developers confirm it or reject it?

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@HK_Reporter
@Monika_in_action
After 2 major updates nothing changed.
I suggest providing this post as a ‘potential error’ for the development team to discuss and let them decide if it is indeed a bug or not.

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have they fixrd this issue yet?

nothing fixed at all


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It has been over half a year since I raised this question. Gaijin made some adjustments on VT4 to fix this issue, but unfortunately now they changed it back. Currently on the live server, the problem still exists without any changes, although it only requires moving the autoloader and ammo module in it for a little bit upwards, nothing else needs to be changed.
btw, by making more modules, more strange bugs have emerged now:
Some tanks’ trunnion modules extended from the gun shields, resulting in mold piercing:
T-64B/T-90A/T-90S trunnions model piercing bug // Gaijin.net // Issues


Some tanks’ Trunnion modules are strangely biased to one side, not overlapping with the barrel axis and penetrating into the turret’s main armor:
[dev]T-72B/B1989/T-90S trunnion module deviation from the axis // Gaijin.net // Issues

Also some tanks where the trunnion module cannot even be inserted into the holes prepared for it:
[dev]Multiple Chinese vehicle trunnions can’t align with hole // Gaijin.net // Issues

Unfortunately, these issues have not been resolved in any way, and there is not even anyone responsible for finding and dealing with them.

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VT4A1/VT4 now be gaijined again.


they lower the crew position,but didn’t change the autoloader position to fix the issue.
just see how low it is:
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Serious model penetration and positional deviation have caused the shells thrower ring even be lowered to the plane of the turret ring.

@Monika_in_action I request you continue to provide feedback to gaijin regarding this issue. Currently, this problem has not been properly addressed and fixed. Additionally, the trunnion module of the VT4 series is not aligned with the gun mounting hole.
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According to the document, it is evident that the circular ring should be located directly behind the main gun.
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In fact, shell thrower were incorrectly modeled twice in the game, and it is obvious that the position of the shell thrower of the autoloader displays the error of the entire autoloader position.
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just see how high the autoloader is.

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Is it just me or the crew looked quite tall (I mean literally).

the crew in Chinese tanks in game are sitting upright, like sitting on a chair, but in fact, they should be similar to semi lying down, more like sitting on a sofa with their backs tilted back,the Russian crew is correct, which makes Chinese ones look taller.

Another embarrassing incident occurred, a player raised this issue and it was closed on the grounds of ‘not enough info’:
The position of the VT4 autoloader in the game is incorrect. // Gaijin.net // Issues


and when i raise this issue with my file, they says:

VT4 wrong autoloader position // Gaijin.net // Issues
So, how can I make gaijin admit that they made a mistake and fix the bug?