Couple different factors. Mainly the older autoloader itself isn’t designed for long-rod ammunition and to lesser effect the newer guns have modified breech assemblies. The barrels can also take excess pressures greater than the old ones. The 2A46M-4 and 2A46M-5 can fire the newest munitions because of these factors and a few others.
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I said yes cause it looks cool
Updated information on the APS and added the fact the vehicle does have cage armor around the engine compartment in a few photos. The T-72B3A has a 270-degree coverage arc unlike the T-90M which has a 360-degree coverage arc. This is due to the placement of transmitter/receivers for the system. It is worth noting that the T-90M and T-72B3A do use the exact same equipment.
- Arena-M T09-A6-1 Active Protection System
- Reaction time: 0.05 seconds
- Coverage: 270-degrees
- 90-degree gap of coverage on rear part of turret.
- Operation:
- Continuously Radiating, Autonomous
- System sounds alarm upon deployment of countermeasures to alert nearby exposed personnel.
- Max Range: 50m
- Types of Targets:
- Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM)
- Anti-Tank Grenades
- First Person View (FPV) Suicide Drones
- HEAT-shaped Munitions
- Speed of Target Max Intercept: 1,000m/s
- Inventory: 12x Counter-Munitions (6x/side)
- RADAR Type: Pulse Doppler-type
- 6x Transmitters
- 6x Receivers
- Equipment:
- The active protection complex includes a hardware module, transmitting modules, receiving modules, temperature sensors, silos, protective ammunition, a control panel, and a set of cables.
Based on what I found which also applies to the T-90M w/ Arena-M as well with the exception of the system coverage.
Edit: Unofficial reports indicate this vehicle may be entering production in the near term.
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+1 for this and for the T-90M with the same system, we need more APS vehicles in-game.
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What purpose does this image serve?
oops my bad thought it showed the t-90m with arena, clearly didn’t even check it
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this would be a great event/battle pass vehicle
Nah, tech tree
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This is likely going to be the new standard for the T-72B3. Whether it keeps the T-72B3A designation or gets something different, this and the T-90M are expected to receive the APS based on patent and sources. Having it as an event vehicle when the Russian tree doesn’t even have an APS vehicle in the research tree beyond the T-55AD-1 doesn’t make sense.
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+1, folder with T-72B3?
Also with the addition of 3BM59.
First, the tank would have to be at top tier, not 11,3 or 11.7 after br decompression. SO you’re looking at 12,0. Second the usa and france have been using out dated rounds forever and you want russia with some of the best armor in the game to have a better round??
When America can pen your k5, and France gets something besides dm43 at top tier. we can talk
3BM60 also entered service in 2016.
3BM59 wouldn’t even have much more penetration, it would barely get it over the 600mm mark.
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which would affect the pen, It would be more resistant to era and composite. Also prove if it was in service, so far from what ive seen its a prototype.
Why do I need to prove anything? The image you posted says it entered service. Soviet tanks with the exception of an event vehicle still have a round that sits at 580mm of penetration, and yes other nations also need ammo buffs, not just U.S. and German vehicles.
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The Russians have been known to lie abt their ammos, for example they claim there T14s round can pen 850-900 mm of pen. Yet we see no proof? 3mb60 also falls to this, with some Russian sources claiming 750 when others claim less or even more is some cases. When NATO rounds like M735 have been ruined for years, they nerfed a British round from an Indian source, you dont see that for Russia. America and other nations has gotten their hands on Russian equipment and rounds and said other wise. YET gaijin doesn’t nerf because “unreliable source”. Just recently gaijin said their going to look into m735 but still, Russia doesn’t need it.
Good grief, smh. Same old argument on every single thread that includes Russian vehicles.
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The ZTZ99A also has a hard kill APS (allegedly), Gaijin isn’t the best at modelling Chinese vehicles - the cover of the APS has never been spotted without the cover from my understanding.
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My point was they didn’t need the round, other nations have been awaiting stuff for a while, its about time the stop riding Germany and Russia for a moment.
U.S. in that case also doesn’t need any new ammunition, iirc they received two darts within a span of a year because their win rates were so low.
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