T-72B3 obr. 2016 (Arena-M): 4-Lines of Defense

Nah, tech tree

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This is likely going to be the new standard for the T-72B3. Whether it keeps the T-72B3A designation or gets something different, this and the T-90M are expected to receive the APS based on patent and sources. Having it as an event vehicle when the Russian tree doesn’t even have an APS vehicle in the research tree beyond the T-55AD-1 doesn’t make sense.

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+1, folder with T-72B3?
Also with the addition of 3BM59.

First, the tank would have to be at top tier, not 11,3 or 11.7 after br decompression. SO you’re looking at 12,0. Second the usa and france have been using out dated rounds forever and you want russia with some of the best armor in the game to have a better round??
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When America can pen your k5, and France gets something besides dm43 at top tier. we can talk

3BM60 also entered service in 2016.
3BM59 wouldn’t even have much more penetration, it would barely get it over the 600mm mark.

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which would affect the pen, It would be more resistant to era and composite. Also prove if it was in service, so far from what ive seen its a prototype.

Why do I need to prove anything? The image you posted says it entered service. Soviet tanks with the exception of an event vehicle still have a round that sits at 580mm of penetration, and yes other nations also need ammo buffs, not just U.S. and German vehicles.

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The Russians have been known to lie abt their ammos, for example they claim there T14s round can pen 850-900 mm of pen. Yet we see no proof? 3mb60 also falls to this, with some Russian sources claiming 750 when others claim less or even more is some cases. When NATO rounds like M735 have been ruined for years, they nerfed a British round from an Indian source, you dont see that for Russia. America and other nations has gotten their hands on Russian equipment and rounds and said other wise. YET gaijin doesn’t nerf because “unreliable source”. Just recently gaijin said their going to look into m735 but still, Russia doesn’t need it.

Good grief, smh. Same old argument on every single thread that includes Russian vehicles.

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The ZTZ99A also has a hard kill APS (allegedly), Gaijin isn’t the best at modelling Chinese vehicles - the cover of the APS has never been spotted without the cover from my understanding.

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My point was they didn’t need the round, other nations have been awaiting stuff for a while, its about time the stop riding Germany and Russia for a moment.

U.S. in that case also doesn’t need any new ammunition, iirc they received two darts within a span of a year because their win rates were so low.

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US got a tandem heat shell this year and m2829A2 was added 3 years ago, still cant pen k5 as well.

Don’t Chinese MBTs have a sort of laser APS that blinds optics of enemy vehicles?

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Now, you also can add ZTZ-99A with APS

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Merkava 4 with Iron Fist

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Maybe smth else, but I cant remember

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Correct, the ZTZ99 does have a laser like APS which is meant to blind missiles but this however isn’t present on the ZTZ99A.

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The APS on the ZTZ99 is also capable of blinding and damaging other tank sights so if implemented in-game it would be busted, from the enemies POV they’d be completely blind and rendered useless.

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A update which focuses on MBTs with APS systems like the ZTZ99A 2024?, T-72B3 Arena-M and M1A2 SEP V3 Trophy would be nice to see (and especially the T-72B3 Arena-M, that looks dope).

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We’ll have to see the new specs of the ZTZ99A’s APS as they’re not listed yet. There’s no name of it yet either, maybe at the airshow in November we’ll see more. We do know it uses the same RADAR as GL-6. It’s probably called GL-7 but who knows.

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I wouldn’t worry about that here. You should try and get the armor fixed on the Abrams as a whole so that whatever RU ammo it receives doesn’t matter, at least frontally.

You talk about M1147?