T-34-85 (Cyprus)

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In 1965, a secret shipment of 32 refurbished T-34-85 tanks, accompanied by a significant quantity of other Soviet-made military equipment, arrived to Cyprus. The delivery was routed through a Yugoslav port and originated from one of the Soviet satellite states. The tanks arrived in good working condition, complete with ample spare parts, and went on to serve as a core armored component of the Cypriot National Guard. After nearly two decades of service, they were officially withdrawn from active duty in 1984.

Unique Features:

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What makes these Cypriot T-34-85s particularly unique is their planned modification to carry additional .50 cal Browning M2/M2HB or .30 cal M1919 machine guns, unlike the Serbian T-34Bs, which typically mounted these at the rear, the Cypriots opted to install them at the front of the turret, just in front of the commander’s hatch, although photographic evidence shows some Cypriot T-34s also mounting them at the rear.

Another unique feature of the Cypriot T-34-85s was the eclectic mix of road wheels they were equipped with. Delivered with a variety of Soviet-manufactured wheels, ranging from postwar T-54/55-style wheels to the bare steel types used during World War II, on some tanks these were mounted in an ununiform pattern. This gave the Cypriot T-34s a distinctive and somewhat patchwork appearance.

The Cypriot T-34-85s originally arrived in the standard Soviet green paint scheme, typical of Warsaw Pact equipment of the era. However, over time, efforts were made to adapt their appearance to the local environment and improve concealment. Some tanks were repainted in distinct camouflage patterns suited to the Cypriot terrain, while others were given much darker shades of green. In the field, crews often took a more improvised approach, covering their tanks with mud, sand and bushes to blend into their surroundings. Additionally, Cypriot T-34-85s bore Hellenic-style markings, with Greek Armed Forces tank insignia painted on both sides and the rear of the turret.

History:

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The T-34s were assigned to the Cypriot National Guard’s 23 EMA, specifically equipping the 1st and 2nd Tank Companies.

By the 1970s, the Cypriot T-34-85s began showing first problems as spare parts became increasingly scarce and maintenance issues grew more severe. Every 8 to 10 years a tank had to be completely overhauled, a rule of thumb to keeping aging armor operational. However, Cyprus lacked both the facilities and resources for such comprehensive maintenance. As a result, the performance and reliability of the tanks steadily declined. By 1973 the tanks were in a terrible mechanical condition and 90% of their RM-31-T radios were out of order because of their age.

As a result, the use of the T-34-85s during the 1974 Turkish invasion was conservative and very hesitant, leading to poor overall results. Despite their age, the T-34s were, in theory, well-suited for the Cypriot environment, they could traverse the island without refueling and their wide tracks allowed them to move quickly across sandy beach terrain. However, the Cypriot National Guard dispersed their tanks rather than concentrating them, forfeiting one of the key advantages of armored warfare. Most of the T-34s were lost to Turkish aircraft and anti-tank weapons, while others were abandoned due to mechanical failures.

The T-34-85 managed to score a few enemy vehicles including several M113 armored personnel carriers, trucks and maybe a single Turkish M47 Patton. Ironically, a single captured Turkish M47 scored more kills against Turkish armor than the T-34-85s did. In total, the 23 EMA lost 21 T-34-85 tanks, with 6 men killed and 6 missing. They were left with 11 T-34-85 tanks that were withdrawn from service in 1984. Due to bureaucratic and political issues no efforts were made to refurbish the tanks. Ironically, the Turks had a special mission company equipped with 11 captured T-34-85s and some captured BTR-152V1s that were repaired and used until 1986. Today T-34-85s remain on Cyprus in various conditions. The National Guard might still have one in somewhat good condition that was delivered to a failed War Museum in Nicosia.

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Visual Characteristics and Implementation

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The Cypriot T-34-85 appears to be based on a modified 1945 or 1946 model, which is currently only partially represented in-game by the T-34-85 Gai. In essence, the Cypriot variant could be seen as a T-34-85 Gai outfitted with a U.S.-supplied machine gun. While the Gai, at the time of writing, is the best-performing T-34-85 in War Thunder from a statistical standpoint, primarily due to its 520 hp engine, it remains unclear whether the Cypriot tanks received the same engine upgrade. However, it is confirmed that Cypriot T-34-85s were fitted with an electric turret traverse system, meaning their turret rotation speed should match that of the Gai.

Notably, photographic evidence indicates the presence of a blackout projector and a box-style electric fuel pump mounted on the left glacis slope, a feature typical of 1960s modernization packages. Some also feature wooden splash guards on the frontal slope. At least one Cypriot tank has also been identified with an upgraded turret roof/ventilation system. This suggests that the Cypriot tanks may in fact be closer to the T-34-85 Model 1960, rather than earlier or less-refined variants, especially given the presence of several post-war upgrades typically associated with that modernization program (T-34-85 (1969). T-34 of the Cold War). Additionally, the use of T-55-style “starfish” road wheels, not yet represented in-game, is a hallmark of 1969 production and refurbishment cycles. As a matter of fact, I suspect these are Yugoslav T-34Bs.

I believe the Cypriot T-34-85 could be a fitting addition to the British tech tree as a premium, event, or squadron vehicle, given that Cyprus was formerly a British colony and maintains historical, cultural, and military ties to the United Kingdom. Considering the UK currently lacks a T-34-85 in its tech tree, the Cypriot T-34-85 would make a unique and historically justified addition. Its inclusion would offer British players access to a classic Eastern Bloc tank with a distinctive twist.

Disclaimer: All aspects of this suggestion are ultimately up to Gaijin’s discretion to decide and implement. This includes the vehicle’s battle rating (BR) , nation (tree), available ammunition types and visual features.

T-34-85 (Cyprus) — Specifications

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  • Crew: 5 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Driver, Radio Operator/MG)
  • Weight: ~32 tons
  • Length: 8.15 m (with gun forward)
  • Width: 3.00 m
  • Height: 2.45 m
  • Armor: 20–75 mm (frontal turret up to ~90 mm)
  • Main Armament: 85 mm ZiS-S-53 gun (56 rounds)
    • Turret Rotation Speed: 21.2°/s
    • Vertical Guidance: -0.5/25.0°
  • Secondary Armament:
    • 2 × 7.62 mm DT machine guns
    • 1 × externally mounted .50 cal M2/M2HB Browning or .30 cal M1919
  • Engine: V-2-34 12-cylinder diesel, 500 hp (maybe 520hp)
  • Top Speed: ~55 km/h (maybe 61 km/h)
  • Suspension: Christie
  • Transmission: 5-speed manual

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Sources:

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Mamounidakis, I. (2008). Armor on Cyprus: Evolution and Operations. Trojan Horse.

https://inf.news/en/military/438df69d27f0679881453ace4196f060.html

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/greece

https://in-cyprus.philenews.com/local/dismantling-of-war-museum-has-begun/

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Machine Gun Mount Exact Position and Shape:

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My hand is on the loaders hatch.

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+1, as a Soviet event or premium.

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+1 for Greco-Iberian tech tree

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NO… has no tree to really go into and instead of cluttering some tree with yet another of the same T-34-85 dropped into a western tree i would rather see some other variants like the rage howitzer/field gun modifications in trees where it would fit or upgrades to existing ones like missing roof MGs

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yes as an easter egg on a cyprus map (i believe attica is one? and let’s add one if there are none), no as a vehicle (in the current game).

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Soviet event vehicle? I don’t think it could realistically place anywhere else.

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A fascinating take. Actually sounds like a solid idea. Attica is set in Greece, however a Cypriot specific map like Varosha/Famagusta for example could be an interesting one.

While if the Greek tree ever gets added it could go there as a playable vehicle. Or a Premium Vehicle for the British tree, considering Cyprus was a British Colony.

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https://inf.news/en/military/438df69d27f0679881453ace4196f060.html
There it says the tanks came from Egypt. Is there anything about where the tanks were manufactured and what model they were? Not that those extra 20hp from post-war engines would change much. Also have you found if the DT machine guns were retained or changed to M1919?

I’m pretty sure Cyprus vehicles would go to Italy (Aaah Roman Empire!!) like Hungary and Turkey, if they don’t suddenly want to make a whole new separate tree.

The book reports that they came from Eastern Bloc. T-55s were denied for political reasons.

Considering the shipment included refurbished T-34-85s and a number of other Soviet weapons I’d say that the DTs were retained or removed. I wouldn’t expect the Cypriots to bother with shaping metal and mechanisms to fit the M1919 instead of the DT.

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Very nice Pics Virus! Are these just abandoned in some base?

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These were most likely former Turkish ones (that they captured). They put them near the DMZ, in a village in the middle of nowhere, facing the Southern Greek side. The ground looked like it was a former ready defensive position with trenches. There was a Turkish observation post on an elevation to the other side of the village. While the yellow looking ones are in a museum near Kyrenia featuring destroyed Greek equipment.

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Oh man, sweet find! Got to make sure I search for anything similar when I visit Cyprus again.
There’s a Greek military airfield near me, with lot’s of wrecks of old WW2 transporters mostly, stacked closely in a secluded part. If only Ι could snap some pics of them without being accused of espionage! The derelict looking ones were always very fascinating to me.

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Varosha/Maras is a very condensed area.

There are so many lanes. I see characteristics here from Normandy (large open sea, beach (though fairly thin) and an open area to the side, however there are a lot less lanes in Normandy.

There are other possible locations in Cyprus though. In the Famagusta district, we have Iskele. Though even this might be too small.

As I’m Turkish Cypriot, I don’t really know of any smaller ROC areas. A lot of the areas I know of are either villages or large cities.

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I have submitted this suggestion, I don’t know when it’ll be approved.

I have been there and there is enough space for tank combat, from narrow alleys to busy highstreets, to tall buildings and short buildings. I have taken a lot of pictures and I have submitted them with the suggestion. Although, you are somewhat right comparing this to Normandy, however Normandy is a world war 2 map, while this here is a cold war map that is arguably much more lively aesthetically even if they’ll add it as fully abandoned.

The old Nicosia airport could be an interesting location as well, as it featured the best organized Greek defenses. Cyprus as a whole can be added as an air battle map.

I’ve been there too, I think the main issue is that it is very CQB/FIBUA, where everything is really condensed into one area. You can have open areas on the side, but it has a lot of lanes compared to other maps. I’d love to see it though, as a larger map, as they’re too small as it stands.

Also Cyprus could definitely be an air map, using the Southern British bases as airfields, and maybe Ercan airport or Old Nicosia Airport.

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And the suggestion for Varosha is live: Varosha, Famagusta. The Pripyat of Cyprus.

If there’s nearly no difference in performance aside from a 50 cal, I think it should just be added as a skin.

There is already a skin for a Soviet T-34-85.

The Cypriot T-34-85 looks like a modified 1945 or 1946 model (which is only represented so far partially by a T-34-85 Gai). So it is essentially a T-34-85 Gai with a US MG. The Gai so far is the best T-34-85 stats wise. However, it is unknown if Cypriot T-34-85s came with upgraded engines, while the Gai featured a 520hp engine. The Cypriot T-34-85s did featured an electronic turret traverse, so their turret rotation stats should be the same as on the Gai.

The Cypriot T-34-85s appear to be equipped with an electric fuel pump box on the left slope and at least one tank is equipped with an upgraded ventilation system. Both of these upgrades are mostly seen on T-34-85s from the 60s. Also, those Starfish roadwheels are also from the 60s and are not yet featured in the game. For the record, Zaloga referred to the T-34-85 equipped with starfish wheels as a T-34-85 Model 1969 (which is a separate suggestion that I made as well).

I think it should be a premium or an event vehicle for the British, alongside the Cypriot Marmon-Herrington Mk IVF which I have also suggested.

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Marmon-Herrington Mk IVF, the Cypriot T-34-85 Companion: Marmon-Herrington Mk IVF (Cyprus)

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The Skin in Question: WT Live // Camouflage by TonyTheJackal

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