Supermarine Spitfire Mk Vc/trop - Star-Spangled Spitfire (II)

[Nostalgistic]

@HolmanTheHorror

…You are aware you don’t have to use airspawn, right? If the only thing stopping you from using the XP-50 is that airspawn, you only need to click on the runway to spawn there. I’ve done that with heavy bombers multiple times for the memes, so I don’t see why you couldn’t with the XP-50.

I am aware, and I strongly wish to remove the XP-50’s default airspawn and adjust its BR down. However, that’s my opinion, and I am not interested in continuing this off-topic.

@HolmanTheHorror

Which isn’t an issue in air RB where you can only ever take one aircraft to the battle.

I play other modes that include aircraft, too, not just Air RB.

@HolmanTheHorror

And that’s the issue. Premiums only exist to print RP and SL, and that’s the primary reason people buy them. It’s not something that can ONLY be filled in by copy paste. It would be better to replace it all with indigenous aircraft, and while prototypes can do that, so too, and more effectively, can minor modifications, aircraft based off of an ace’s aircraft, one’s based off of notable examples, or just reflective of the aircraft used in a general battle/front/offensive/etc. There are ways to implement indigenous premiums that don’t prevent prototypes from being implemented into the normal tech tree and take the same amount of effort as copy paste.

I wish you good luck convincing Gaijin’s sales team and player base to go forward with that approach of getting rid of lend-lease and captured copy-pastes. While I am on board with bringing more indigenous production and prototype vehicles to every nation, my stance remains that premium lend-lease vehicles with significant historical value get to stay, especially the ones in the US, USSR, UK, China, and France.

@HolmanTheHorror

Thing is, alt history wouldn’t be a massive rework. It would just be adding additional… set ups? To the current system. Hardly a rework.

Yeah, the term ‘massive’ is not the right word to describe it if it’s just a minor addition with only such a setup. Unless Gaijin explicitly has plans for Sim Battles that include this setup, I doubt it will come. They have been silent about this, apart from balance changes, still leaving Sim Battles insufficiently appealing for me. So, you can see where my skepticism comes from.

[HolmanTheHorror]

@StormRyder13

Welp, thanks for your thoughts, it proves how misformed you are on about WT, and how much you think your ego is how WT should be

Sure buddy, I’m misinformed and have a huge ego here.

Most certainly not the one resorting to ad hominem attacks, no sire.

@StormRyder13

Because according to “anti-C&Pers” WT has only two modes, air RB and air SIM that works like ARB. News flash, it doesn’t heck, neither of those are WT’s most popular modes. Air Arcade is a line-up mode. WT is and will always be a line-up-based game. You LARP with line-ups, and you can’t do that if a vehicle isn’t in the same tree.

So, at best, your reasoning is ‘I don’t play this mode, so we can make the game objectively worse for 0 benefit’? And that’s being charitable.

People aren’t going to play through trees if it’s a bunch of slop they’ve played already. They are also less likely to grind out trees if they can simply pick up a premium version of a foreign aircraft they like in their main.

@StormRyder13

“C&P Problem,” you mean a problem you guys made up. If something that has existed from day one of a game is a problem, then you’re clearly playing the wrong game. The only problem is that Gaijin likes to add them first before domestic equivalents, but with them there, the foreign vehicles add options for the line-ups at that point…

So just because Gaijin does a thing, that means said thing is correct and there is no possible way that such a thing could be wrong, a bad idea, or make the game worse in any regard?

Clearly, you are the next Plato. Perhaps even the next Einstein.

@StormRyder13

Also, here’s a tip: Every comment made on a suggestion is more likely to get it passed to the devs. So, thanks for your guys support.

You and I both know that Gaijin doesn’t care.

First of all, let’s be honest. They don’t need a suggestion for copy paste. They are fully aware that the US deployed Spitfires. They already have copy paste reflecting that in game. If they wanted to copy paste another Spitfire into the US tree, they would have done so by now.

Secondly, I would genuinely take any metrics of ‘support’ for a vehicle with a grain of salt, and I’m sure Gaijin feels the same. There is a massive positivity bias in suggestions. The only time I would consider its data ‘valuable’ is if it’s about 50/50 or outright negative, as if the positivity bias was overcome? Such a suggestion should not be implemented, and would certainly bring controversy if it were.

@Nostalgistic

I am aware, and I strongly wish to remove the XP-50’s default airspawn and adjust its BR down. However, that’s my opinion, and I am not interested in continuing this off-topic.

Then you can do everything you want to do with this copy paste with the XP-50. If the airspawn displeases you that much, you don’t have to use it. Not the perfect solution with your issues with the balancing of the XP-50, but you can handicap yourself down to where you think it should be.

@Nostalgistic

I wish you good luck convincing Gaijin’s sales team and player base to go forward with that approach of getting rid of lend-lease and captured copy-pastes. While I am on board with bringing more indigenous production and prototype vehicles to every nation, my stance remains that premium lend-lease vehicles with significant historical value get to stay, especially the ones in the US, USSR, UK, China, and France.

Well, I already got the playerbase on my side. Every update, and every BP, I see people complaining about the copy paste, so that’s a safe assumption. As for the sale’s team? They did do a culling of some of Britain’s low tier premiums not that long ago, and they’ve evidently been seeing success with basing premiums off of specific vehicles in top tier. See no reason why they wouldn’t bring that model to the lower tiers, and gain some good press by culling all the copy paste from the premium part of the tree.