"Super missiles" in war thunder

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DISCLAIMER:
i understand that xurrently, the game is not at all ready for the inclusion of these missiles. This post is assuming war thunder changes to fit these missiles

With the seek and destroy update, new ARH missiles have been added, the AIM-120, and R-77 for example

But this begs the question: what will we have going forwards?

These are the missiles i propose should be added with relevant platforms.

BVRAAM (MID range)

  • AIM-120
  • R-77M
  • PL-15
  • METEOR
  • I-DERBY ER

BVRAAM (LONG range)

  • R-37M
  • AIM-260

WVRAAM

  • AIM-9X
  • R-74M

Here is a short overveiw of each missile starting with

BVRAAM MR

R-77M

The R-77M is an improvment of the R-77-1, with a better motor allowing it to reach nearly hypersonic speeds, and the removal of the grid fins for improved aerodynamics, and the ability to fit in internal weapons bays.

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 100NM range
  • M4.5 top speed
  • 50G overload
  • 25KG warhead
  • ARH+DL seeker

AIM-120D

The AIM-120D is an improvment of the AIM-120C

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 80NM range
  • M4.0 top speed
  • 35G overload
  • 12KG warhead
  • ARH+DL seeker

PL-15

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 120NM range
  • M4.0 top speed
  • 50G overload
  • 25Kg warhead

METEOR

the METEOR is a missile developed by the EU, a special feature of this missile is that it features a RAMJET

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 120NM range
  • M4.0 top speed
  • 35G overload
  • 25kg warhead

I-DERBY ER

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 50NM range
  • M4.0 top speed
  • 50G overload
  • 12kg warhead

BVRAAM LONG

AIM-260

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 150NM range
  • M4.5 top speed
  • 35G overload
  • 25Kg warhead

R-37M

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 250NM range
  • M6.0 top speed
  • 20G overload
  • 50Kg warhead

WVRAAM

AIM-9X

the AIM-9X is an upgrade to the AIM-9M featuring TVC( thrust vecroring) and an upgraded IR imaging seeker

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 20NM range
  • M3.0 top speed
  • 60G overload
  • 10Kg warhead
  • IR & UV imaging seeker

R-74M

THE FOLLOWING STATS ARE ESTIMATIONS

  • 20NM range
  • M2.5top speed
  • 50G overload
  • 8Kg warhead

Platforms:

Eurofighter TYPHOON
F-15EX
F-18C
Su-35
Su-30
Mig-31

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They will add 120C next hyped ARH for sure

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What, 100NM range? Do you mean KM or NM wave radar which are not seen on ARH really.

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WVRAAM
IRIS-T: forgetting someone?

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They’ve forgotten a lot from this.

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I mean if we are going by realistic additions soon then id point to the R-73M.

Its perfectly viable to add, and for equivalent missiles they can just make the Magic 2 have the IRCCM it should instead of what is now iirc basically identical to the R-73 in game.

The information for the IRCCM the Magic 2 should have is allready available on the bug report that gave the Magic 2 IRCCM. It allegedly having a 4 element seeker instead of the 2 element one in the R-73.

If one wants a better Aim-9 that is “balanced” For such an addition, then Aim-9R would do the trick. Tho that is prototype weaponry.

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AIM-9X, MICA IR, ASRAAM Blk.1 and R-74 ready for 4th gen fighter aircraft at 13.3 next year. and 4.5 gen fighter aircraft at 13.7 & 14.0 BR in 2026 ~ 2028

I guess AIM-120C-8, AIM-120D, MBDA Meteor, PL-15 & R-77M for 4th gen and 4.5 gen fighter aircraft 13.7 ~ 14.3 BR in 4 or 6 years

I want another 4th gen WVRAAM for USA & china aircraft this year

  • AIM-9M-8
  • AIM-9M-9
  • PL-5E II
  • PL-8B
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Everyone should probably have available FPA seeker missiles before we go adding those.

I would not want to be in the soviet tech tree while not having an equivalent missile to play with.

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I expect MICA IR and ASRAAM Blk.1 for attack aircraft 12.7 BR (Air AB, Air RB & Air SB) before fighter aircraft

R-73M never produced and never in russian service ?

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RVV-MD exists for russian export. Which afaik is the closest thing to the r-73M that there is firm info on. Idk how far R-73M itself got in terms of development.

I just dont want the Magic 2 seeker limited by the performance of the R-73.

Possibly, id hope for Aim-9R as the first FPA seeker missile as its the “worst one” Since its basically an Aim-9M with and FPA seeker. Should be eligible for a select few navy aircraftaircraft (essentially a SRAAM situation)

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PL-15 is 200+KM, my bro
This is both confirmed by designer and US intel report
For super long range you are missing the PL-17 which is estimated to have 300-400KM range

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Sadly it cancelled before enter service 😔

So I hope gajin add AIM-9M-8 & AIM-9M-9 for USAF and USN fighter aircraft in september or december this year

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Well I mean many nations like China still do not have any self produced IRCCM. Plus the next update will probably focus on ground vehicles a bit more, or ships since there is like only 5 new ground vehicles this update and half are literally premium. I’d expect them to come in first update next year.

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Add active radar homing medium-range Air-to-Air Missile on JA37D Viggen, JAS39 Gripen A, F-16A Block 15 ADF and F-15A (USAF)

At least I hope another WVRAAM PL-5E, PL-5E II & PL-8B for J-7E, J-8F and JH-7A in Q3 or Q4 this year

New APFSDS for 5 MBT top tier abd increase max BR higher 11.7 (12.0 or 12.3) for next major update

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Yeah, thats what i said, 120NM.

120NM is roughly equal to 220KM

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Ok I misread and thought it was KM

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A couple of addition. Imagine from internet.
PL10
The latest and finest WVRAAM from PLAAF. This missile is very modern (Since 2013), it supports TVC and features a range that is similar to the MICA if not longer. It is reported that this missile has some really good IRCCM, but not too many regarding info was disclosed. It also supports LOAF.

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Aircrafts feature this missile: J20, J10B/C, J16, J15, JF17 Blk. 3. Maybe some version of J11 but I am not sure.

MICA-IR
The succeeder of MM2. It is as the name says, an IR version of MICA. Features TVC and a way longer range, in terms of kinematic performance, it’s basically a MICA EM with slightly more drag. Not too much explanation needed here since everyone know this.

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Aircrafts feature this missile: Mirage 2000-5 later version, Rafale F2-F4, and possibly some Su30 version from India.

MICA-NG
Newest version of MICA. Equipped to the latest version of rafale and has double the range of original MICA, due to improved lighter electronics which allows a second rocket segment to be implemented. MICA NG is one of the few duo impulse missile out there.
Range is about 80NM or 150KM from the MBDA website.
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Aircrafts feature this missile: Rafale F4

PL17:
Probably the air to air missile with the longest range so far. Again newest and finest by the PLA, and by what we know it mainly serve the purpose of an ACWAS killer, it is however, capable of killer highly agile targets like jet fighters if in need.
Speculated range is about 210NM or 400KM minimum

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Aircrafts feature this missile: J16

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This is straight up propaganda. PL-10 max range = 20km. MICA IR max range = 60km.

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I’ll like to see the source for that.
The PL-10E (export version) is rated as a 20km missile.
If you extrapolate the range of the PL-10 to the difference between the PL-15E (export) and the PL-15 you get 28km range for the PL-10.
Which is much less than the MICA IR.

It has an FPA seeker which means it has a good IRCCM, didn’t see a source claiming its IRCCM was better than a 9X/IRIS-T/MICA.

I suspect you mean LOAL (Lock on after launch) instead?

Where tf do you take your source from?
If its from my thread about FOX 3 missile then the source is not the MBDA website.