Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Skill diff.

If you use that logic then the gripen is a worse aircraft than the mig-21.

If you can’t see the wood for the trees then there isn’t much hope… your trying to claim using a one off scenario where the aircrafts own performance is possibly the least determining factor in those results…

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How so, the Flanker won the VAST majority of WVR engagements and lost all of the BVR engagements. Why was this? You want to blame it on the R-73, but at that point it was WELL known to Gripen enjoyers how to handle such a weapon. What was the cause of the losses if not lack of performance against the Su-27?

25:1? That’s a lot lmao, If that’s true then 100% there’s something wrong with the current gripen…

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in what
what are you on about
what where the parameters

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Source?

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Yes, the J-11’s beat the Gripens 25:1 in the first two days which were earmarked for “basic tactical maneuvers” (BFM)… dogfights.

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Don’t jump to conclusions from the published results of the Gripen vs. Su 27 dogfights. There are many variables that are very important, from pilot training in manoeuvre combat, DACT rules to equipment . Gripen was already using the old AIM-9L and probably didn’t have a helmet sight.

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That’s crazy, i can only imagine the drama when the gripen gets nerfed…

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well then in game if there is a 1v1 between gripen with aim9L and su27 with r73 , gripen still wins 90% of the time i wonder why.

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i doubt that R73 is much better then 9L

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gripen can simply gun you down

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not even you use the TVC R73 to kill it

just gun it down , in a 1v1 most of the top tier jets can easily gun it down (most of the time) and if you pre flare constantly then u wont be able to use r73s. its a dogfight so you wont get a rear aspect shot with r73.

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When was R73 only rear aspect

and when did you have to dog fight

in a side aspect shot it literally goes for the first flare.(mostly) , even more so if the enemy pre flare.

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do you want to test what you are saying

yes

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sure thing i can be in the su27

not true, in a side aspect shot it has a good chance of hitting, the thing is that with the Su-27 currently you won’t get even close to a side aspect shot, not even if you turn as as hard as you can at first and cobra to do as fast as possible the last part of the turn