Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

That’s not how it works. You have to consider a lot of stuff before calling something unbalanced or so. Back when they added Apex Predators f-14s had 6 radar missiles while MiG-29 had 2, would that mean that the game was unbalanced? Not really (in fact it was unbalanced towards american jets cuz that 2 missiles the 29 have are monsters).

In the case of the su-30sm although it gets a absurd amount of pretty good missiles, the platform isn’t that good (it’s a much heavier su-27 with the same engines), and that accounts a lot for the performance of the missile you’ll launch.

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Could the 30 have those engines or has it always flown with TVC

SM2 have these engines

Always 31FPs

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It does the problem is team size and late to mid game a Su-30 just dumping loads of missiles at a single target.

F-15s do it too. I struggle to see how when we come to F-15EX and Su-35 how we are going to balance the game for Typhoons, Gripens etc

My fear is we increase missile quality.
R-77M, Aim120C5

And maybe new IIR missiles

Meteor missiles, Typhoons will do perfectly fine at minimum

30MKK has no TVC afaik, but that’s the KnAAPO Su-30 not the Irkut one

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They couldnt make Meteors work on the map sizes we have game needs to change a lot

Unfortunately it is what it is and nothing can be done about it, it’ll only get worse in that sense (missile spam). That’s why i prefer to not go beyond 90s tech, i find early 4th gen aicraft combat more interesting.

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I do enjoy the Tornado least the Radar works ha ha

Unfortunately it also has to do with Airframe sizes. Do understand the likes of the F-15E and Su-27 family are heavy multiroles in the sense and this ofc mean they’re also massive, and being massive means more hard points and therefore pylons

sure just give the su35 6xr37m

It’s better to fly out the su35s with 4 r37ms and 4 r77s, 2 of the r37ms would take away the double r77 pylon

the su35 can carry 4xr37m + 8 xr77-1 + 2xr73 or 6xr37m+4xr77-1+2xr73

Yeah I meant the double pylons between the engines that can also take the r37s

Do you guys know if there is a report open about the TVC being always on?

So the next step should be the SU-30SM2 or the Su-35, right?

27sm2 is also an option.

Or 27SM3 (considering it might be more different from current in-game SM1)

isint sm3 just su-35 standard?