Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

funny thing is that the su-30 should have a twr over 1

funny thing is that the su-30 should be one of the best if not the best BFM fighter in the game

the su-35 should be alot better because of the AL-41

yeah its still sad that the flanker fm is still completly wrong even after the buff
because they didnt change it to the real life flanker fm but just decreased the drag and called it a day

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IK but ppl are complaining exactly because of 1v1s, for me these are not relevant for the current meta but i understand that some want to have fun in custom matches, for that it would be interesting to fix the western overperforming aircraft.

That said i believe the su-30sm performance is more than enough to compete in current air rb meta…

Cant take this approach seriously.

Btw anyone noticed it’s harder to do a kulbit now with 30% fuel with empty racks?

I didn’t have that much difficulty in .31 iirc

the problem the sim comunity has rn is, that the su30 isnt contolable in full real anymore at slow speeds, it isnt really the flight performance itself but the handling

And that’s the issue, let me revive this old thread made by our good old comrade Giovanex Many top tier aircraft are overperforming in energy retention

We can complain all we want about russian jets performing worse, it’s not the russian jets that are underperforming but the western ones that are overperforming…

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Nor can I say the same to you. It’s mid, always be mid, EFT and F-15E will still be dominant.

well where tf is my TWR of 1 in the su-30 then

below min fuel and with no ordnance, i’m afraid

yeah they probably fly with 15% fuel on those airshows and with all their avionics removed, right?
right?

he is perhaps the only one who could fix/improve the su30sm fm D:

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Are you high

go post a manual to prove him wrong

… i know you want to do it

lol they have all been posted

I mean, I’d assume they keep the avionics on, but no demo flight is done with a combat load of either fuel or weapons lol

That thing is super new to the game and it brought a new mechanic with it (TVC), knowing how lazy this company is it’ll take them a long time to make it reasonably close to reality, that’s why i said weeks before the update how messy this plane would be.

But talking about the other russian jets, they are much closer to reality than the western ones, specially the mig29 on which ppl swear to this day that it’s underperforming even though it matches all of the charts… Guess what happens when you put a correctly made vehicle against a fantasy ufo?

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man there have to be newer EF manuals out there surely we only need to find them

He’s like the emperor of war thunder FMs

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I can only imagine where this discussion is going to go.

You going to refute any point?