Yea the aim7 vs r27er meta was awful the r27er is both faster and has more range than the aim7 by a Large margin (it even beats the aim120 and r77 at short to medium ranges)
But then the only alternative is the r27r which is worse than both the aim7 and r24r(R27r has more range but the r24r is much faster in the beginning but still slower than the r27er)
It’ll be more balanced tho, even if it’s worse than the sparrow… 27ER is just too much, an absurd monster missile.
Once they add the su-30sm i think i’ll be using a r-77/27Er combined payload. The su-27 and mig29 respective radars are the only thing stopping these missiles from being Star Wars shit, bars should make them much more efficient.
And to top it of there is the r27et with the second best Russian ir seeker and basically anything the r27er has
True but unless going for those 10-20km shots I don’t think it’s Worth bringing those
Also it makes my critic Point of the su27sm worse
Having 4 R73 6 r77 2 r27et to keep Track of and use the right one in the heat of Battle is hard enough has it is
Adding R27er on top of that makes it even Harder
Not to mention all the other Things that need attention at top tier
would AMRAAM get same 50G pull? or that doesnt count as “balanced”?
Well, you got me. In that case we should wait for the c which If I’m not mistaken also get improved maneiverability.
Isn’t it worse given it has smaller fins to fit into weapon bays of stealth aircraft?
I’m not sure, i have little knowledge on those modern missiles, only basic info.
The problems with R-77 is that missile shouldn’t bleed as much as it’s in game. IRL R-77 and comparable and range adventage isn’t that huge as in game. R-77 just suck on range but has some adventages for example high off-boresigh shot. For my the main problem with current Su-27SM compare to other top tier jets is crap radar, much worst BVR capabilities. FM could be better but rn it feels fine.
I think bars will improve the plane by a large margin, rafale performs Very good although Mica doesn’t have good range compared to amraams.
Not saying the bars is better than rafale’s radar, but still, much better than the one we have now for the su27sm
But it’s not, in some plane you can get kill from 50km every much just use DL and TWS to help that amraam get a kill. I tested it in EF-2000 and getting kill on very long range is really consistant.
Yea Bars will help a lot much modern PESA radar with gimbal would be great.
I might be wrong but on range Mica is pretty similar to R-77 if we are talking about efficienty.
They’re doing the same to the F-14. It’s digusting.
Could be better but after Having used the derby I am
More than Happy with the r77
The Derby is literally just an aim120 short range and a r77 long Range
I didn’t have that questionable pleasure of using Derby but know it’s crap. But a good thing is only 1 TT plane has those.
I know atleat two the British Gripen and the Israel F-16
If i remember correctly F-16C barak II and F-16D have them but Barak II can use AIM-120. And Gripen has R-darter, honestly i don’t know if those are C&P Derby or what but also garbage.
Sadly there is no plane with both r77 and aim120 to Test the performance between those two
And the only graphs I could find start at 15km
It isn’t specific to any one aircraft, that’s available to any R-77[-1] carrier.