Su27SK in theory has it equipped by default, and Su33 also has it a lot since it has even less CMs. Up to now I have not seen a J11 without it. So not unthinkable that they decide that it should be in game without functions before everything else is in sight.
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
You mean like all the other ECCM systems not modelled. As it stands Russia is the only nation with ECCM on an Aircraft and that’s the IRCC system on Ka-52 and the Su-39
On a contrary I think - ECM doesn’t exist now, but the pods, if introduce even just visually, would still take away wingtips pylons and thus taking away your 2 R-73 (it ain’t much, but loosing missiles without anything in return is annoying)
Also Mi-24, but not only USSR/Russia have it
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No but only Russian vehicles have it.
Losing close range missiles to make you far harder to detect or shoot down. Not a hard trade
Yes, but there’s no ECM mechanic as of yet. If or then they add it then for sure,.but now? It just a downgrade
IRCCM is ECCM…You are electronically countering a system and it is mounted to Russian aircraft.
Yes but that too is historically accurate especially for Chinese J11s. I would not mind if they move J11A down to 13.3 for 2 less R73s.
Not the same thing though. I think that is more akin to the type of system seen on tanks like curtains on T90 series rather than other ECM which targets radars and work in completely different principles.
thats like asking them to model the weight/drag for the ecm pod in german mig21 bis. but its not modelled cus they added it just so they can give it CMs. i dont think they will add the ecm pods for su27 unless they model it.
Real missile;
+17 drag index per R-27
+7 drag index for pylon
Test config increases drag index by 30%
Gaijin missile;
+(none)
“wow it’s overperforming”
YOU DON’T SAY?
I would love to see the Gripen E, it’s truly an insane aircraft.
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In my country (Brazil) we have the gripen E, it’s an incredible plane and i hope to see one day in WT with this camo:
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Where did you get these numbers from?
Such an index is impossible for the Su-27.
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Looking purely at the performance of the airframe, should the su30sm be better or worse than the su37 terminator? From what I remember, the terminator only had 2D thrust vectoring and the su30sm has 3D thrust vectoring
also, how better or worse will the su30sm be in comparison to the su27sm?
From MiG-29 German air force manual
Well, you’ve got the thrust vectoring and access to a modern weapons set (particularly air-to-ground). Better sensors also.
However it is lumbered with the extra weight/bulk of being a twin-seater. An extra tonne of mass if memory serves over a single-seat Flanker.
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i wonder if we will get a better F-15C or F-15E (new radar) to go with Su-30SM a2a wise
it is the direct counterpart to flanker after all
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No reason why not. The later F-15s get some much nastier weapons/sensor combinations do they not? Any close-range advantage the late-model Flankers have with TVC would be offset by having to avoid the C/D SPAMRAAMs at greater and greater distances.
It’ll suck being uptiered in any case.
I’ve been trying to spade the 29SMT and find it a punishing experience to work my way past the waves of Fakours, Pheonixes, AMRAAMs all before I can get into effective R-77 range. The 12-14 BR bracket is just too heavily compressed and I don’t think Gaijin will expand the BRs enough when these newer jets get added.
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the APG-63v3 on the F-15C allegedly made some F-22 pilots jealous, let alone the APG-82v1 put on strike eagles. Legion pod is much newer, but will give great IRST capabilities. EPAWSS is also new, but will give strike eagles more CM and much better RWR ingame. combined with 120C-5, theyll be great.
vs a sukhoi with R-77-1 and R-73 will be very interesting to see ingame
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What does this have to do with the Su-27?