Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Considering the number of people who have that knowledge (very few), the amount that may possibly be on this forum (extremely few if any), and the level of classification (prison for decades if not life), it is effectively impossible for this to happen

Idk about TVC, reduces range a lot when used

The PL-17 has no mid-body wings, AIM-260 has some small stubby little guys there.

Challenger, Leclerc, DTC-10-125, VT-4 are all legitimate leaks. The Captor-M document is the first result on google if you look up; though still restricted… the others to my knowledge were not available on google and the only one that you can readily find still is the VT-4 or DTC-10-125 stuff.

“correct keyword” filetype:pdf

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Yes, but how many would be involved in AIM-260? I mean specifically for AIM-260, it is extremely unlikely to have a leak

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The F-15 EX is fully comparable in performance to the Su 35

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In what regard?

The Su-35 is a bit heavier overall but makes up for it easily with higher thrust engines, better aerodynamics, and better overall fuel efficiency. The AL-41 engines are variable bypass, produce considerably more thrust.

I think you may be thinking of an improved Su-27 in your head but the Su-35S is quite the upgrade in the engine department and is on a better platform.

Probably the best comparison can be found here:

[Strike Fighters 2025_4.pdf

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@wasa850

Comparing the engine, the F110-GE-129 has a T/W around 7.5:1 maybe up to 8:1 depending on the setting. The AL-41 used in the Su-35 has around 10.5-11.5:1

The F-15EX has a slightly higher empty T/W rating - ~1.7 as compared to the Su-35’s ~1.67
The 50% fuel T/W for the Su-35 is ~1.18 as opposed to the F-15EX’s ~1.43 w/
Su-35 at 50% fuel (mass of 5,750 kg of fuel) is ~1.18
F-15EX at 50% fuel (mass of ~3,051 kg of fuel) is ~1.42

Note the efficiency of the Su-35S’ engines will be much greater simply because the engine is newer and has a variable bypass. The afterburning efficiency and ability to supercruise will allow the fighter to take considerably less fuel and last longer - the T/W’s are in favor of the Su-35 over the F-15 if it wants to maintain the same amount of time in the sky and even more so if the F-15 equips the CFT’s… which it will need to do if it wants the same time on station as the fully loaded Su-35.

With T/W in the Su-35’s favor it is also on a more favorable airframe in regards to sustained turn rate, climb rate, and high angle of attack flight. The F-15 is good, but it is not Sukhoi good. It also lacks the TVC needed to take advantage of the one circle should the Su-35 start hitting the two circle a little too hard.

Where the F-15EX will perform better is in straight lines, high altitude intercepts. It is more optimally designed for BVR engagements and is obviously better equipped to do so against the Su-35S… which is to be expected as it is considerably newer.

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Doesnt EX uses F-110-GE-129?

Correct, the numbers are still accurate I just put the wrong engine name off memory.

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Proof of K-27EA existence? or maybe K-77M on something other than Su-57 and 1 mockup at Su-75 that wasn’t even an actual K-77M model

Actually just went and checked, the AL-31-FM1 on the su-27sm/34 were used on some su-30 variants but I can’t find the exact ones, the SU-30SM Was the MKI build but for Russia so it actually has a little less thrust as most of them use the AL-31-FP engines but could be replaced with the FM1 with tvc as an alternative

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Regardless of the r27ea existence, there are better options that would be better performance-wise while avoiding the controversy

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Most definitely (Not a single picture of it being fired)

Yea. But first deliver are 2011 vs 2021.

You better find out man. Be ready, to make THAT report.

yep its from wikipedia Saturn AL-31 - Wikipedia

It absolutely is. From sensor handoff to air to ground munitions, 2-way datalink and datashare is in full effect and can be used for essentially any guided munition.

i meant in the game

edited original post to fix this

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From what i get from the wiki its that AL-31FM1 has being use for Su-27sm, Su-34 and SU-30M2. And it only talk about the Su-30sm using AL-31F with Thrust vectoring AL-31FP. That Su-30 is not a Su-30SM. So even if it can use it. Its the same as saying it can use 177s engine or Al-41.

Irkutsk plant has begun installing AL-41F engine on Su-30SM This page talk that in sept last years some Su-30SM has being “modernize” with Al-41 that the Su-30sm2 use. But i don’t know if that is true. Because someone posted here that the Su-30sm2 was not being produce with Al-41 and they are just rushing it to the SMO with more Ground attack capability.

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Don’t know where this goes so I’ll post it here.

Most of Gaijin’s (mainly older, before 4th gen) FMs have an inherent need to overperform because the thrust output at AOA isn’t constant. They like to compensate with drag so the bleed rate is too high, and the plane feels nasty to fly.

If intake losses don’t increase at higher speeds then it also creates a problem they have to fix with drag.

Thrust reduction* by >10% at 14 AOA for shock cone intakes