Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

so, thats reason why it worser

tbh im pretty sure gaijin knows the fm they gave it was completely wrong but didnt bother fixing it because “balance”

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I’m still wondering what clicked with the devs that they decided to fix the flanker FM.
It’s also kinda funny that the 27sm entered with 10km HMD, 6 R-77, old engines and a bad FM… 6 months later it’s a completely different plane lol, they just need to fix the IRST and radar scan pattern and it might actually become good.

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dont forget about the r77 and r73 spin

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It’s definitely better than before, but they kinda just brute-force fixed the FM without evaluating what was actually wrong with it in the first place. Now it seems like the Flanker slighty overpeforms in supersonic energy retention.

Oh well, it’s probably the best that we’ll get… Given the limitations.

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what’s wrong with it?

backend issues that was somewhat addressed today

i can confirm the r73 still mostly spins

thrust is likely over performing, they are probably still compensating it with extra drag but now less than before. They just decided that 0.4G underperformance at low speed was not really “close enough” given the massive impact it has on SEP but didn’t want to keep editing stuff to fix higher speeds (or they may have chosen to deliberately keep it over performing a bit since it’s still one of the weakest top tier aircraft).

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There was a massive wave of feedback on the Russian forum once they discovered they were using a prototype Su-27 manual with erroneous data in favor of the Su-27SK one.

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When did the russians find out they were using the t-10 FM?

after some investigations and practice with numbers given in devs’ “trusted source”

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guys found it was close to prototype specs which also caused project’s overhaul due to it not being competent to some NATO jets. then original 27 appeared

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Two weeks ago or so, became much bigger issue early last week after dev dropped

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It’s not even T-10S btw, but T-10.
And they trusted that would bring more accurate flight performance than the actual Su-27S flight manual.

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This is kinda sad because it somehow means that they have 0 initiative and will just change stuff when they get absolute shitted on, much like when they got review bombed and had to improve the economy.

That’s something to consider in the future when they make the same mistakes again which y’all know they will…

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also as i’ve somehow passed “2 battles barrier”, wanna join the happiness that came along Soviet FM fix. didn’t expect quite significant part of abroad audience to stand for SU’S unique features, though i’ve seen how much Seek and Karma were talking about that. truly inspires

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And now, the flanker is overperforming at high speed lolz

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@Grimtax can surely explain it better than me, but range seems to be quite a bit too low

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Well, we all knew that the former FM is BS.
Flanker familiy aerodynamics is crafted from decades of experience.
In War Thunder it was a complete farce before this update.

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They refuse to acknowledge the issue with drag.
And besides, most aircraft in War Thunder are overperforming so I don’t see that much of an issue.

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