Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

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6214

I think the Su-33 should be added. I’m all for the assorted carrierborne aircraft being added. But this thing doesn’t push any envelopes. It doesn’t solve any shortcomings that russia is facing. It’s basically another filler plane, but a high tier one this time. I was honestly expecting it to be the new $80 premium since an inferior flanker might still be kind of appealing for someone who wants to grind the russian air tree and is willing to buy one of the expensive premiums to do it.

Oh well. I guess I’ll let my russian planes keep collecting dust. I’m hopeful that I should have the F-4 ICE in time for the addition of the eurofighter. I’ve reached the point in the german techtree where I’m finally getting some mileage out of my old Tornado Memeflieger.

6215

Yes, we are very angry.

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6217

This is mod without support of ED and files needed to create proper FM, not to mention its a meme for absolute majority of people knowing atleast a bit about flight dynamics.

6218

At equal skill level F15C wreck the MiG-29 9.12 or 9.13

6219

What kind of nonsense are you writing?. The code is free of charge.This FM was created by me based on the aerodynamic data of the Su-27 and mathematical calculations and CFD

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6220

oh… that explains everything. Given your math directly disputes what creators of eurofighter claims. xDDD

6221

I don’t see any contradictions

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6222

Drawing a sad picture there.

It would be just fine at 13.0 though 13.3 might be likely.

6223

It’s worse than the regular su-27 i don’t see why 13.3

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6224

I think they will add it with 13.3, too “good” for 13.0.

6225

Gaijin might has other opinion about it but i wish u will be right about that 13.0

6226

Well If they give crap-33 13.3 it will eventually be adjusted when it starts getting demolished, we don’t need to worry about that tbh

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6227

Unfortunately that is possible.

6228

I would nto say it is worse.

6229

It will be bullied even on 13.0 tbh. With worst FM than Su-27 it’s DOA for me nothing except for fixed FM will help.

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6230

Half CMs, worse flight performance, same weaponry and same radar. A slightly better rwr and 2 more missiles won’t make up for its flaws…

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6231

Correct me if I wrong, but wasnt part of limited (6 machines IIRC) modification of SU-33 not only had L-150 RWR, but also stronger engines?

6232

The engine improvement is pretty poor, it won’t make up for the weight increase

6233

All Su-33s had increased thrust engines. But the increase is insignificant

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6234

4 more tons than regular su-27 to be more specific, that’s a Lot.

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