Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

[dragonflaine71]

31 was just passed to the devs, that’s an aircraft that i’m actually looking forward to

[Flogger_cbs]

Wait, did they really make a plane without an RWR? I thought it was just a joke.

[MythicPi]

Nobody is sure. Its almost garanteed it doesnt have L-150 which is what it was given ingame, as its missing all the antennas for it. L-175 Khibiny MIGHT be able to be used as an RWR, but the Su-34 we have in-game literally doesnt have the wingtip pods for it soooooo…

[csla1972]

Ruslet say that some machines (8 of them) later got L-150.

https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/p-o-suchoj/su-33-flanker-d-/

[BBCRF]

All aircraft began to receive the L-150 25 years ago

[dragonflaine71]

Please Man this needs to stop

[csla1972]

You know. Eurofighter and F-22 is from today new Flanker. :D

[ID_Heaven]

They have 2 engines, they have wings. Similar enough

[lxtav]

A380 has more engines and bigger wings, therefore all Typhoons, Flankers, F-15s etc must have worse flight models

[luque13]

Su-30Sm and Su-35 can both carry R-37M and have been seen doing so

[SpartanulPH]

only Su-30SM2 and Su-35S

[Dzhkグ]

I dunno how those would play, Maybe like a Tornado but more bricky and faster…

Could be fun tho

[dragonflaine71]

I had a talk with a friend when the f15e was firstly introduced ingame and he said something that i 100% agree, it proved that stuff like the mig31 could be viable ingame. Staying at high alt with its absurd speed launching its missiles could give a headache to the opponents it’ll face.

[dragonflaine71]

MiG-25 would be a bit more tricky tho but i believe it’ll also be viable if you put it at like 12.0-12.7 br

edit: ok perhaps not up to 12.7 but around 12.0 it should be fine

[DarKBird]

@magazine2

Asking for Soviet top tier jet improvements: Currently regarding statistics US aircraft are in the lead with Soviet aircraft slightly behind, though not significantly enough to where they require better weaponry. From looking at the preliminary data, the addition of advanced weaponry as suggested by players would tip the scales drastically in the other direction, here we’re talking about the RVV-MD close-range missile. Also brought up were R-77-1 medium-range missiles, though regarding energy these don’t differ much from the R-77 already in the game.

Well… damn. Guess we stuck until more advanced Flankers will be added or (as unlikely it as it is) FM is fixed

Also, bruh, “though regarding energy these don’t differ much from the R-77”, isnt it literally noticably better and puts it on pair (and even being better IIRC) than already present AIM-120A/B?

[Grimtax]

Frankly, I would rather they work on the FM and fix the RADAR bugs instead of buffing its weapons.

[dragonflaine71]

@DarKBird

Also, bruh, “though regarding energy these don’t differ much from the R-77”, isnt it literally noticably better and puts it on pair (and still being better IIRC) than already present AIM-120A/B?

It has more range but idk exactly how better it would be, regardless, i don’t see why not add a new missile that has a bit more energy if they themselves admit that it wouldn’t change the situation by much, why did they add the aim120B?

[DarKBird]

Well, more range is “better” in the case of R-77 and it being somewhat reliable within 20km.

[dragonflaine71]

Yes and they said r-77-1 wouldn’t change the balance, i don’t see why not add then…

[DarKBird]

Yeah, especially IIRC in-game R-77 already uses R-77-1 model anyway