Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Take it elsewhere man.

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Tbh, even if Su-27 DID get its flight model fixed, it’s not going to make too much of a difference if an F-15E can shoot multiple AIM-120s at you from space and going mach 2+ while it notches.

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Our reports on this forum are often ignored and not actioned by the developers, even ones completed by our technical moderators, (Gunjob is our saviour in most situations) Doesn’t matter what nation it is.

But reports made on the Russian speaking forum are prioritized and taken as gospel even in situations where there is insufficient evidence and significant counter evidence.

Tbh the complain never was about improving the winrate of russia or something like that, people just wanted their plane to perform accurately and do some crazy shit sometimes during rare dogfights, hence why this discussion exist even when the f16s and mig29s were introduced, some of us (including myself) were even against the addition of the r27er because in our eyes it was a lazy “solution” for the mig29 underperformance back in the day.

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Well i can’t opine about this because i don’t know much about the russian forum.

But as of now, we’ll need a proper counter to the arrival of the F18C, almost no doubt that it will be next update. We might see Su-33 sometime but not this year.

I think it’ll be either the su33 or the mig29k

Su-33 is not on par with F18C, maybe with F18A. Mig-29K is a possibility yeah, if not, then it will be Su-30

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I hope they bring the 29, i’m a bit tired of flankers.

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You sure tho? If we get Su-30 we might get Thrust Vectoring aswell

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Instructor and thrust vectoring, what could wrong…

I imagine it being kinda like the Thrust Vectored Jets in game, Yak141 for example, but they will have to do something about the Instructor fr

Well those thrust vectoring are manually set by the player, not really reactive to flying.

I’m imagining the instructor constantly pitching up and down trying to fly in a straight line. I’m mostly joking.

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Top tier air is so unbalanced right now. Mostly fighting USA teams with no USA on my team. The whole enemy team climbs and spams us with 120’s forcing us defensive and then they push us.

Sucks being one of the few players on your team with a kill.

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2D thrust vectoring is present in the VTOL aircraft in some sense, the proper 3D on the late flankers, J-10B and Su-57 are a different bag all together

Tbh I doubt it’ll be a good vehicle considering how bad the devs are modelling these planes…

gaijin flanker FM + thrust vectoring = falling off the skies

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Almost like they should have added it after or before the Su-27 without ARHM.
Now when it gets added there are already aircraft that have superceded it.

The only hope is they are holding it back for a new carrier model and modern naval game mode…
Su-33, F/A-18 and J-15 all coming at the same time would be great.

It’s been 1 year and a half since I first saw you in the 29 thread, yet we are still at the same place,

Gaijin decided to go all out and not to fix their shit, not implement static stability or even model an approximation of that to avoid big overperformance of any aircraft.

After all this time I’m wondering if people in the Russian thread of Su-27 and MiG-29 tried to report underperforming FM…

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afbeelding
interesting

anyways, im pretty sure we are just doomed until gaijin is forced to look at the fms again when they give us a new flanker. remember, good sov fms mean less F4S sales.