Hey, has anybody had this following issue? It does not happen on the Flanker, but I don’t know any big threads for planes which are affected, so posted here.
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
Looked on J-7E and it seems it comes from that CM dispensers always fires in pairs (switch to only FLARE or SHAFT, it will launch a pair), but then switched to SHAFT and FLARES it does exactly this - fires both pairs.
Now… I honestly dont remember now if before equipping SHAFT and FLARES option would change the pair to include both or not
How it was before:
- Take only flares - 1 key press deploys 1 flare
- Take mixed - 1 key press deploys 1 flare and 1 chaff
How it is now:
- Take only flares - 1 key press deploys 1 flare
- Take 30/30 - 1 key press deploys 2 flares and 2 chaff
Also, I’m curious, why do you capitalize flares and chaff, and why do you write shaft instead of chaff?
Further tested with J-7E and yes, if take 72/0 it does a single flare, but if to take, say, 71/1 and switch to only flares it does fires them in pair. Now thats weird tbh. Wouldn’t be surprised if Gaijin made the logic with new switchable flare/shaff based on old flare and shaff option with just preventing use of the other variant if it switched to just flare/shaff, but the logic is built on firing a pair (to make old flare + shaff work) and so it does exactly this. Could be a base for a bug report come to think, but I aint brave for those
As for the other thing - just highlight, nothing special. And autocorrect desperately tries to correct “shaff” for “shaft”
Edit: Tested on MiG-23ML, MiG-27M and Su-25 and they fire flares in pairs even if selected only flares. J-11 and J-11A fire a single flare if only flares selected. So it seems like it specifically those (+ unknown more) aircraft issues (unless those work correctly, but Im not knowledgeable on the matter)
I remember seeing a report that it should have a 40° mode too?
Yes, but it is for ≥70 km. But we don’t have different modes for different ranges in game, so it will probably not be added (the 29 also has narrower scan patterns for longer ranges, but they are not in game).
Just want to say how much of a bummer it is that the SU34 was passed up.
Damn. I was hoping for 40° just to increase it’s full refresh speed. I would 100% consider change to 60° a 20% nerf.
The radar is unusable in any competitive context at top tier sim. I’d legit consider the 10.7 Viggen radar a 2-3x improvement over current flanker radar
It’s really lackluster. I’ve been flying the AV-8B+ recently, and IMO this plane’s radar and combat performance in air to air combat far exceeds my 27SM despite being almost a full BR below it and completely lacking a datalink.
İt isn’t “mostly copy paste”
İt is literally COPY PASTE, exact copy.
Just with more range.
That’s it
SU30 should have came instead. Or at least the SM3.
But Russian bias.
some su-30 had same radar as 27SM.
SM3 is basicly 27SM with 2 more hardpoints… lol
And better engines no?
Su30SM has BARS.
But yes the SM3 is not a massive upgrade, but if USSR has to deal with 2 of the 4 actual DL channels, and the VE radar set, 2 additional hardpoints and better engines would at least compensate slightly. Because god forbid the FM is made realistic/not hampered by the flight instructor.
some sources states yes, some no
SU-30SM is SU-30SM, not just SU-30 as unknown modification
also, that might be too advanced to game, that doesnt have some of mechanical radars yet
The SU-30 is the SU-27PU. I didn’t think I’d have to specify given the numerous possible variants of the SU-30 and the fact that Russia had 5 PUs and were not renamed to SU-30 until a few years after the PU was made. The SM is the variant Russia actually uses today.
It could easily be balanced by the R-77 being trash if we’re honest.
PESA might lack of implementation then.
and lol, 77s are not worsest, theres still MICA and DERBY/DARTER
At least the darter is decent now but yeah Derby exists.
Though I’d argue the MICA and R77 are kinda on the same plane.
The PESA definitely wouldn’t be used to it’s full potential but at least it would pick up targets. The SMs radar is very, very bad. I think it’d be a good balance.
Theyre same, difference only few KG
Both bad in BVR and good in WVR, yes
F-15C radar also bad, but in case of Range(cant use TWS when target at distance more than 35-37 NMI), lacks of NCTR. But thats not a reason to add 63V2 or V3 aka AESA