I taught you better than this how to dogfight when you rose through the ranks in my squadron. You can flatspin almost any plane in-game in front of someone and hope they miss the easiest shot in the world… Doesn’t make it not risky.
As it has been stated, the Su-27’s supermaneuverability is pretty much a last ditch option that degrades the performance in other areas that might have prevented the need for it in the first place.
This is so cringe & irrelevant. Can you please just stop associating me with your squadron? You sound like an ex-girlfriend bringing up the irrelevant past.
Because they are beautiful aircraft of the Cold War. It was the only era where though the US & USSR were enemies. They followed each other closely in combat aviation design. It will never be like that again.
Most importantly I want Flagon is my favorite Soviet PVO interceptor. Look at that double delta sheeesh.
I wonder why China did not utilize the double delta in the serial production of the J-8 though its heavily modelled after the Su-15.
Oh really then why did it fly all the way until Dissolution & retire in 1996 in Ukraine if it was that bad? It was a great interceptor.
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The Su-15 formed a significant part of the V-PVO’s interceptor force, and was designed to intercept easier targets such as the American B-52 and U-2 and the British V bombers, leaving the more difficult targets such as the XB-70 and B-58 to the faster MiG-25P. The Taifun radar of the Su-15TM was optimised for counter-countermeasure operation, as opposed to range. As an interceptor, the task of the Su-15TM was to fly under autopilot, using GCI commands sent through the datalink. The radar would only be turned on as the interceptor approached the target in order to provide targeting parameters for the radar homing K-8/R-8/R-98 missiles, the high power of the radar allowing it to ‘burn through’ enemy ECM signals. If all else failed, IR homing versions of the K-8 would provide a last opportunity to shoot down the intruder, along with any gun pods the Su-15 might be carrying.
The Su-15 was optimized for the high-altitude interception role with its fast climb-rate and high speed at high altitude but lacked look-down/shoot-down capability, even with the Su-15TM’s more sophisticated Taifun radar. This eventually led to the MiG-25P, which did have look-down/shoot-down capability, becoming the preferred asset of the V-PVO, especially once NATO switched to low-level penetration tactics. Even so, the Su-15 remained an important part of the V-PVO until the fall of the Soviet Union.
I just do not see how it was bad. If filled a role until the end of the Union even when later & better options were available. They continued to upgrade them even the double delta wing & the ability to carry gun pods etc. Yes, the Mig-25 took over the high-altitude role. But it could not shoot down the CIA’s A-12 Oxcart anyway & NATO switched tactics to high-speed low level penetration. Something the Flagon can deter to some degree.
The pilots didn’t like him, and the engineers didn’t like him either.The MiG-21 also remained in service, and the Yak-28 and MiG-23 of the USSR simply did not have time to replace the huge fleet of aircraft
Why am I being quoted again, you don’t see the sarcasm? Of course Sukhoi developed a stealth fighter that is reminiscent of their distinct design features…
9:00-9:40 You can see the Leading-edge vortex controllers moving independently & working. A very powerful FBW computer is needed to work the TVC & LEVCON.
The RuF is well beyond leading edge roots extensions. No 5th generation is equipped in such a way.
The RuF is just in a whole other league when it comes to alpha flight. 3-dimension TVC is just one technology of alpha flight, high maneuverability, & supermaneuvrability. Most nations cannot achieve TVC. China just joined the club.
All of these technologies can be traced back to the mesmerizing ability of the Su-27.
iirc the primary purpose is to increase or decrease static stability and to act as a canard would as a trim device. It’s purpose is to allow a higher instability margin and give the aircraft a method of deep stall recovery or better post stall control.
Russia is behind on computers and whatnot, their electronics are reliable… but it doesn’t exactly take a supercomputer to handle FBW stuff.
They are behind only on the ability to mass produce. There is a difference.
They have all of the intellectual properties & innovation at the ready. They are sitting on many weapon system designs. If they had the manufacturing capability of the US, they could easily produce weapon systems on the level of the US, & in some aspect surpass them outright. For example, the US still is somewhat behind the RuF & even China (to a degree) in Intercontinental Balistic Missile design. The US is working hard right now to develop a new delivery system as we speak to catch up. Hypersonic missiles? US is working very hard to catch up as well.
As for FBW, to regulate the 3-dimensional thrust vectoring, LEVCONS, leading edge droop flaps on top of the conventional flight controls would require an above average FBW system. This is not just any FBW you will find in the F-16, or F-18 I guarantee it.
They are massively behind in transistor production capability. They are generations behind in transistor size and have no ability to refine the raw materials necessary to even make these high end electronics. They are behind on thermals, behind on transistors, behind on electronics. Due to this they rely on imports and production is extremely limited.