since I lack R-27Rs the total weight in my example is 200kg lighter however considering it appears to underperform even in a lighter than should be configuration isnt a good sign
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
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There should be an error somewhere.
Same config at a different speed still off by ~.6ish G like the past test being off by .67g
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Got both Flankers spaded and aced (because I am a pyscho).
Is there anything you would like to see?
Guys, flanker likes to rip when spaded and aced. Kinda like the F-15
in full real controls in the J-11 2 R-27R on the wing (nothing else) at 3000m try to rate is the ideal test since thats the closest to the manuals parameters, use http://127.0.0.1:8111 ofc, would be big help :)
working on it! The full real is a problem for me I got you. How much alpha should I pull? degrees?
R27 which wing pylon the furthers inward or outward?
Alpha is basically just how much you pull so you neither gain speed nor lose speed, aka hold a rate.
afaik they only go on the innermost wing pylons, but I dont think it matters much anyways
also forgot to mention this earlier but youll want to use min fuel but set it so fuel is unlimited so you dont have to worry about being at the correct mass for a short period of time, min fuel with 2 R-27s is roughly the same mass as the manual given
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If I pull 30 degrees of alpha, I induce drag.
I will most definitely lose more speed if I were at 50 degrees. The aircraft itself will induce more drag.
But I will try to find the degree of alpha that will neither gain or lose speed and will note it.
You got it! It’s your test.
IIRC the Soviet Su-27S also has a total fuel capacity of 9400 kg, no?
Is there a possibility to obtain additional counter measures? For example, get twice as much with a small caliber flare instead of a large caliber flare. The 96 flare looks poor compared to the 240 F-15 and 640 JAS39.
A single drop of flares is useful with large caliber, I’ve noticed on other big fighters that the small ones are almost useless. Even if you have more, it is not better.
Is 96 for a flanker equivalent to 192 or 288 for an eagle?
Issue is for some reason 24 of 96 flares are droped as two for once.
ran another test and this one ended up pretty well, its definitely underperforming by a significant margin
(note my config is slightly lighter and less draggy than the manual, so if the parameters were exact to the manual the gap would be even larger)
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this was off by a whole G, seems the faster you go the greater the underperformance
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Please make a report and return to us with the link, if you don’t wish to record and upload or make the report I also can.
If I can get away with bug reporting using only screenshots I can put together the report, however my PC is dead atm so im using my laptop so if any recording is needed that is something I cannot do
I can record, just need the fuel setting, loadout, altitude, and speed to hold for the different tests.
I’ll share the videos here and you can file your report.
my testing is done with min fuel (I set it in test flight so fuel is unlimited for consistent testing) and 2 R-73s which puts my mass at 19,900kg (manual is for 20000kg)
all done on the J-11 since its an SK and since its heavier min fuel with R-73s is very close to the the manual’s mass
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650-700 km/h sustained at 1km shown here;
Appears to be maybe fine at 600 km/h but as you approach 700 km/h it is having a hard time sustaining 7G, only 6.5G.
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