You mean this guy? So, it’s your word vs G .I.Zagainov director TsaGI. That’s cool, thanks :)
What was you highest level of education in this subject again? Or just in general?
The Su-27 is also not 90 either huh?
Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection
The terminology is used loosely at that section, it is described further for both in later portions of the document. The Su-27 is only capable of > 90° because of the instability in those regimes.
You have a source for that? or is that a 12th grade education speaking?
Find a page any page right now then prove it.
Thank you I have all the information I need.
I’m sorry, my English is not good, I’m already 40 years old and from a different generation. Some of the things you so aggressively advocate are a bit… strange. Like the MiG 29 and the F-22, or the fanatical fascination with supermaneuverability. But no offense, internet discussions are tough, . Face to face those issues don’t arise.
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You have for years now, when I first showed you the document above. Somehow it is still being misread.
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The first Su-27 Flanker B aircraft (since upgraded) had a significant delay in the control response… do you know anything about this ? I know it’s a tough question.
Your the one “quoting” things that are not there. You are making the claims not me. Su-27 is limited to 90 degrees.
Are you not confident to set the record straight you have the floor?
If your not going prove it. Then why say it? To troll?
Yes… I am a fan of both aircraft. Most importantly I am a fan of the Su-27 it is my all-time favorite aircraft. I said this openly a few times. That is why love talking about these aircraft & learning more about them.
Everyone was a fan once. It has a progression, a first uncritical fascination, if you go deeper, that you discover the very bad sides of your plane, and eventually you accept it and take it as it is.
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No, you made claims and I debunked them. Now you’ve gone off on a tangent for multiple days over semantics denying any ignorance
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What is it ?
Written. Permissible angle of attack at the entrance to the engine
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“a first uncritical fascination, if you go deep”
What the hell are you talking about now?
It’s an airplane dude, some people like it, some people don’t. Its nor that serious.
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I did not make the claim the Su-27 stalls much poorer than it does. I did not make the claim the F-18 is better in every way over the Su-27.
YOU DID
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You made all these wild claims & have ZERO EVIDENCE. All you have is a Napolean complex & nothing else to do with you time but make up stuff.
"Just rely on sources to speak for you"?
That is a statement of a weak mindset. You have no idea how bad that makes you actually look.
This line of thinking is corrupt because you you admitted you must rely on public information found on the internet to speak for you even in the smallest matters of a video game. relying on sources to speak for you is the reason why still have trouble learning the most basic subjects involved.
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This line of thinking is precisely why you are still unable to comprehend the most basic subjects related to these aircraft, possess a terrible reading comprehension & lack any form of critical thinking.
This is why you are incapable of properly interpreting anything you find on the internet without deviating from reality or falling victim to propaganda. You continually rely on articles found on the internet to speak directly for you.
You did not learn anything if you cannot articulate the logic of your own positions. Neither does it ensure that you are correct on any of these topics but, rather is quite the opposite.
Sources are not there to speak for you.
Primary, Secondary & Tertiary sources provide varying degrees of evidence in differing perspectives to support your thesis.
You must still articulate your own thesis & explain the process at which you arrive at any given conclusion.
This is why I simply ask individuals to explain their own arguments described in their own word. How they respond immediately reveals whether they understand their own logic, if its legitimate or is nothing more than a fictional personal desire of distorted values, numbers & intentional misrepresenting & misleading.
You will always refuse to explain the logic of your ideas or provide any source that aligns with your theories because all of them are made up. Just like what you are doing now in your CLAIM that the Mig-29 & Su-27 is now all of a sudden both inferior to the F18C in angle of attack, thrust to weight & control.
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You rely on sources to speak for you because you are incapable of articulating your own argument & explaining the process at which you came to these wild conclusions. Because they are entirely made up you are unable substantiate the in plain English. So, you refuse to provide any further details & sources. When people have the same literature you reference, you refuse to provide the pages and location of.
All you can do is misrepresent facts, distort number & refuse to clarify your own previous statements at request.
Lastly, a little birdy would like to remind you that both of your bug reports were rejected. Every single point you made in both reports were rejected.
You are lying once again & intentionally misrepresenting truth. There was only one developer who commented in these reports & you know this.
ISO is the only developer who commented in this one report.
MiG-29 AoA still underperforms according to fix // Gaijin.net // Issues
You intentionally said Devs (plural) tie in moderator comments to falsely portray that the developers feel the Mig-29 is over performing feel 60deg is too high as well.
The only individual who is a developer said the following in report decided of his own volition to reduced post stall stability. The angle of attack remained the same but the speed at which it can achieve 60deg increased
“However, we will reduce post stall stability a bit, it will able to achieve ~60deg at 550km/h but is seems a bit off from real characteristics and balancing.”
The Developer was specifically noting the SPEED at which it can achieve ~60deg "seems a bit off from real characteristics and balancing.
(Note: Mig-29 is a highly balanced regulated aircraft in terms of game efficiency & BR. It has powerful missiles it never carried as act of balance/game efficiency. It also not permitted to use its R-73s likewise.)
Lastly, the Mig-29 was already a 50–60-degree capable aircraft prior to you second report as stated it would be by staff in the first report
MiG-29 underperforming AoA / nose authority // Gaijin.net // Issues
TrickZZter quote :
Cobra itself is not useful maneuver figure, and has no any positive effect battle performance.
I’m glad the developers know this, though personally I think as a last-ditch maneuver before certain death it may be valid.
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You are wrong!.The best U.S. pilot uses it in aerial combat…0,54 min…
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Well, that’s nonsense.In close combat, she can decide the outcome of the fight in your favor
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Projection
b-but tom cruise