Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Though not to the level as the Su-27 as I was saying, and not enough to constitute the action of a cobra

This is called dynamic access to supercritical angles of attack, Yes, the Su-27 allows you to reach an angle of 120 degrees, but it usually rarely exceeds 100-110
Mig-29M with TVC

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And as far as I can see, no non-tvc MiG-29 can match it in that regard

If you’re talking about aerobatics, then the Su-27 can’t do that without TVC

The Su-27 is able to surpass 90dg deflection in a straight pull… The MiG-29 can’t.

There’s a lot of info regarding the mig29m maneuverability on our suggestion

also please, if you can, consider giving it a vote to help bringing this marvelous aircraft to the game :D

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Already have, surprisingly. I don’t quite remember filling it out.

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It has additional vortex generators, stronger engines and wing pattern altered.

The Mig29 is already technically able to achieve dynamic attainment, aka supermaneuvrability. However, it is limited to only being able to reach 90 degree alpha (cobra) in narrow windows and that’s it, iirc.
It is not capable of controlled side slipping etc. like the Flanker.

The additional upgrades to the M would most definitely make it fully supermaneuverable. To what degree, I do not know.

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i wonder what gaijin will add after fox 3 update as the next russian fighter. after fox 3 update russia will no longer have the bvr advantage like it does currently and mig29/su27 are not even on the top 5 list of best dogfighters in the game (r73 carries them hard in wvr). do you think they will rush to mig29m/k or tvc mig29/su27 ??. the smt will be a horrible platform to use r77s , sure it has the radar but it bleeds speed like a mig21. mig29 smt vs f16c/gripen/mirage 2000.

The ER still out accelerates all active missiles we tested on dev. It still has first strike capability and the CW still seemed much more reliable than all active missiles on dev server at range.

Will that remain the same, is yet to be seen.

I have a feeling GJ is going to release a new Flanker along with the update for Active Radar missiles or the Mig29M or K. I highly doubt they will release active missiles and the Mig29SMT will be the only fighter the tree has.

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They could add either the mig29m or the su27sm, although the SMT will probably still have better capabilities bvr-wise than both of these planes

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On my opinion MiG-29K, Su-33 alongside with other nations carrier based jets witll be in the thematic carrier jets update.

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su-33 did not use r-77’s

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I know.

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ye thats why it wont be added cuz it has no arh in arh era that is coming maybe with some upgrades etc idk yes but otherwise no

I assume new flanker after Su-27S Flanker-B might be Su-30M1 Flanker-H before Su-27SM

Another MiG-29 before MiG-29SMT (9-19) maybe MiG-29S 9-13S, MiG-29SM 9-13SM and MiG-29M 9-15

I quite believe gaijin could add Su-33 and MiG-29K 9-41R after Yak-141

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but the SM was the first su27 to carry r77s if i’m not mistaken

Su-30M armed 6x R-77 like Su-27SM but before new IR AAM R-74

I assume Su-27SM armed BVRAAM (SARH) R-27ER & (ARH) R-77 like MiG-29S (9-13S), MiG-29SM (9-12SM & 9-13SM), MiG-29SMT (9-17) and MiG-29M (9-15) but carry new IR AAM R-74 (R-73M)

I been playing the Flanker all day today, so I’ve been thinking. Since the R27ER is so good at moment they will perhaps not give new flanker next patch but instead a new Mig29.

Perhaps just model the radar more, and hopefully the F-14 as well.

Seems more probable.

I do not believe the SMT will be the only active missile carrier when the missiles debut thats for sure.

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I would be happy with that xD

I also wish they bring EC mode to make these bvr fights more exciting, but that’s just unrealistic to get rn unfortunately

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