I didn’t realize gaijin had this bug-report portal. It looks like there’s an acknowledged report about the 65km limit for target selection.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/vAt6WAhISrrF
I don’t really have a horse in the race of what the radar should or shouldn’t detect in different IRL conditions. I’m just concerned that my radar is succeeding at detecting targets at range, but I’m not permitted to select what my radar is detecting.
to pick up targets at longer distances the HDN modes work better for me than the normal search PD or tws, but yeah the max range of the su27 maybe needs to get fixed, lets wait to see gaijin response about the bug report
Generally I start the match using HDN TWS to try to maintain situational awareness of what the enemy team is doing. Then I swap to standard TWS once I start getting within range for a missile launch.
The radar was pretty underwhelming range wise IRL due to a slew of difficulties, later versions of the radar improve upon it but honestly flanker radars dont really become anything special until the PESA ones
idk, for me bvr still is not worth it, i rather shoot my missiles at close ranges
So…question for everyone here, has anyone made a bug report about the su27 PD radar locking chaff? or the gripen being fully capable of continuing with the afterburner on and evading the r73 by simply spamming flares using the periodic countermeasures
in the case of the gripen, you cant lock him at all (cause the radar keeps locking the chaff) or any other plane that keep spamming chaffs, and you also cant shoot the r73 at him cause even with afterburner on he is able to evade the missile
all PD radars are locking chaff when the target is above them because of the radar changes in the update
is not only above, can be if they are bellow or at the same alt as you, as far as i know you shouldnt lock chaffs with PD radars, you should lose the lock, but not lock the chaffs
it can also be at same alt when background is clear sky or some reason idk the exact specifics but it happens to all PD radars now
what i understand from this source is that, chaff should not be locked by PD radars,
source:
for example, how could you use your gun sight that needs the radar locked at the enemy target so it can calculate how much lead you need to give to hit a shot, if you cant even lock the target?
1 year ago one bug report used the same source that i shared here, to say that pd radars shouldnt lock chaff, and it was accepted, what has changed now? Do we have radars that are not really pulse doppler?
and what about the underperforming r73? not being able to hit a target with afterburner on all the time just cause he is using the periodic countermeasures is kinda…bs
Chaff is a bundle of otherwise solid objects that will quickly be lost to the PD due to the sudden loss of airspeed… but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t block the signal. Chaff has been overperforming anyway and I think InterFleet has been instrumental in shaping how radars and chaff work in the game with some of his research / reports. As I said, he is the one to ask.
I’ve spaded the Su-27, and I am fully in awe of how bad it is. The airframe is garbage, can’t win a 1v1 to save its life. Drops speed like no ones business and cant get it back.
Radar is anemic, cant lock, wont stay locked.
Just not going to bother with Russia anymore, when everything else is miles better.
I wonder Su-30 (Su-27PU) armed Air-to-Air Missile like Sukhoi Su-27S & Shenyang J-11 Flanker-B and no change engine but new radar ?
Wrong. Flanker has great acceleration and climb rate, low speed AoA is decent enough for one free R-73 shot.
Why are you getting in a 1v1 in first place? this ain’t Mirage nor Gripen. Keep your speed and use the ordinance at your disposal…
Not true, it holds speed pretty good in turns above mach 1.
This might be the only thing you are somewhat right, it is lackluster but still usable.
Altitude is the Flankers domain too!
I do not think there is a jet is better at dogfighting up high. The F-15 is close but imo the Flanker is king up high. Maybe the Tomcat… Hmm I will have to test that in a 1v1 high alt.
I think people hype themselves up about this plane, thinking it’s a super plane but it’s just an average 4th Gen, not a god-like entity
Considering the su27/30/33 makes up most of the russian air force it is clearly at least better then average. The su27 is pretty good at some things, one of the best 4th gens in agility, for example and is objectively a very uh… good looking… aircraft. And who calls the flanker a god-like entity lmao? The only god-like entity i know is the F-22 RAPTOR RAHHHHH >:)
LMAO yeah, it does look quite pretty, I’m just referring to the people who think it doesn’t have to obey the laws of physics and is good at everything, when nothing is)) carrying the best air to air load out in the game isn’t enough for some people I guess. Personally I’m quite content with it. It’s not a tornado ADV at least haha
