do this test and give me the result. stall the flanker (making it fall). try to get it out of stall (basicly gaining speed and control):
1- with TVC
2- without TVC
share your result
You can do it yourself to prove me wrong. Instead you couldn’t be bothered so you shove your work onto me.
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i have, and i tell you recovering with TVC takes much longer than recovering wihtout it. im just asking you to do it so you can grasp what i mean.
the main point im going to reach is this. lift is the most efficient way of turning. and you get lift with airspeed and to get that , the best way is to have the engine set at 0 angle (basicly no TVC) the reason TVC is cool and all is when you reach a speed low enough that you dont have enough speed to turn. then it becomes viable to use TVC which again is very inefficient. efficiency is what matters most in 2 circle unless you need that last drop of AOA at that critical moment
tell me you didnt get my point without telling me that you didnt get my point
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Difference is around a second at altitude above 5km (Su-30SM with 12 missiles loaded) and it’s mostly due to gaijin lousy modelling with TVC overcorrecting itself and making airframe jitter
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Someone’s gonna look at the thread with 200 unread messages and think the Su35 got leaked.
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And then a mod is gonna read… that message.
Good thing this thread isn’t a flag fiesta like some others.
Amazed forum still has nice people💯
Raf and EFT thread vs Su-27 and MiG-29 thread.
at lower alts it will be higher and i will tell you why. the test is a little bit loaded. when you are falling straight down and trying to pull up, TVC will will put the engine nozzle upward which will produce downward thrust, that means the thrust that your engine produces is being used against you. so for example if you are falling alt difference will be more significant (x=at2+v.0t(a=f/m)) . now at lower alts the thrust will be higher so this effect will show itself more and can literally slam you to the ground.
except they arent. TVC is modelled to only tilt nozzles at the very start of the motion, afterwards they remain perfectly straight. You can see how aircraft is pulling up and yet nozzles aren’t
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Footage from a Platan? Or some other targeting pod?
Also today i learned that one of the Su-27M airframes was delivered in a museum in Yekaterinburg. 4 hours of travel on a train from where i live… Man i really need to visit that museum now
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I dunno
What’s interesting for me is the ТПВ1 and ТПВ2 indicators. Usually in Russian language it means thermals.
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