UNLESS gaijin thinks that SM3 also has Irbis installed
we don’t, SM3 most likely is heavier than SM. First airframes were literall Su-27SKs if my memory doesn’t fail me. Reinforced wing, reinforced landing gear, it all adds up
Eh, unless it also got AL-41 or, at least, Izd 177 (provided it have some power generation) I doubt it even physically possible (30SM2 at least suppose to get AL-41 engines (or even already did?))
Physically it is possible. Su-30MKK was a testbed for Irbis, albeit only in a half-power setup. This exact version of Irbis was offered for Su-27SM2 program.
Don’t care if the leaks are fake, need the Tu-22M2 or 3 asap so I can red storm rising Backfire larp by firing off Kh-22s at carriers.

Su-27SM3 stil uses Al-31FM1.
theoretically you can slap AL-41F1/F1S onto an older Flanker by modifying the mounts.
Most Flankers can’t use Izd. 177 due to the stresses put on the airframe by the engine, Even though the Izd. 177 is meant for the same mounts as the Al-31 (This might not apply to Su-35S, since it’s an reinforced airframe).
Who could possibly be flagging them lol
I assume you got this info from somewhere? 177 has type 99 mounts so it shouldn’t be a problem for the airframe
we do
the Su-27SM we have ingame has 12 missiles, upgraded engines and the N001 VEP
what we have ingame is basically the Su-27SM3
only difference is that we dont get the 12 missiles from having extra wing pylons, but rather through gaijin adding r-77 double pylons
isnt that the mythical 27SM2 tho
Weight, big guy. And probably the ability of SM3 to slap R-77s on the R-73 pylons similar to Su-30SM.
Who said that SM3 can’t be with SM2 parts? I am not talking about us, i am talking about gaijin logic.
Well I THOUGHT George N. Said it, but looking it up on his profile makes it apparent 177 can be fitted to older Flankers.


well that is just a theory, a PALNE THEROY
thing is, i doubt that gaijin would add the “wingtip” r77 since there isnt too much info on the SM3 and because it is still called Su-27SM so gaijin will just copy the loadouts we already have
I have someone in mind
Who?
Riddle me this
who is a UK main and cries russian bias
who comes here without knowing what he talks about

No, not the wingtip, i mean second pylon on a wing if you count from the tip.
yeah, this what puzzled me becaue it was said from the very beginning that 177 was made in AL-31 dimensions and uses Type 99 mounts found on T-10 airframes
Could it be along the lines of “In Queue for 13 minutes”
i know you meant that thats why i put wingtip in quotation marks
i was to lazy to write out what you wrote