Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

I dont disagree with you but so many other jets are UFOs.
As long as they have fixed the Typhoons Radar the changes dont bother me.

Sadly as the F-15 hasnt receieved any nerfs it will likely be the true BVR truck again

It was in response to the doom and gloom of the Su-30 guy.
By reducing the capabilities of rival airframes Rafale has also had changes and the Typhoon the Su-30 will be in a pretty good spot! :)

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it will be something like this for bvr rn
f15e (fast boat with good radar and good missiles)
ef (it will depend if this thing radar gets fixed, if that happens i think it will be better than the f15e)
su30 (more missiles and with the r77-1 that has more range it will help since the su30sm is “slow”)
j11b (less missiles but it is faster than any other flanker and i think they still didnt fix the new radar too)
and rafale (cause micas are short range)

Su35S next update probably haha, hope China gets it too )))

Thats Christmas with the F-15EX

Having only 6 120s hurts the Typhoon.

It’s likely going to exist between long and medium range.
That’s currently Rafales territory

Yes R-77-1 is interesting seems to have good range need to see how good it is in the medium to short range.

I want Mig-35 atp

And 31

If you want to evaluate the FM Su-30MK (CM), then there is a simulation made on MATHLAB

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I guess the jet was so perfect that everyone want to buy? (wrong)… It was the best plane ever so there was not need for TVC engine or AMK… so they just wasting money dev these thing right?. Seriously Some people are just delusional.

Yea but not interested in flying another Su-27sm or worst atm.

Some part of my psyche still hopes Gaijin decides to give it AL-41s. Like seriously, giving it the better engine probably won’t shake up the meta anyways, it just gives it a better fighting chance, especially at BVR

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Forget simulators. Heres the real thing.

This would fly circiles around the one we have on the DEV server right now.

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With the adjustments to the Typhoon and Rafale the upgraded engines and new missiles would tip the balance.

Did Su-30SM actually ever have them?

Someone mentioned a change of Oswald coef in the last patch, being now at 0.54like all other Sukhoi, did that change anything ??

Would it really though?

I havent had time to hop in and test since the recent update and extension. But i could tell you i have no clue what the Oswald coef is or does.

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Of course the Su-30 would have superior kinematics to the F-15E
With 12 MRAAMS a better Radar and TVC

Typhoon and Rafale have had flight model changes. If the Typhoons Radar is still tragic the Su-30 will supercede it in BVR and Medium to short range.

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Not really? There is an interview by TASS with gen director of Irkutsk aircraft plant in which was said that they have plans for modernization of Su-30SM2, which also include the installation of AL-41 engines

How the FUCK this going to help in ARB or ASB like serioulsy ? This is litteraly “Kill me” button

This slow piece of bullshit can’t even speed up how it’s going to compete against other 14.0 planes ?

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its just funny and will help with 1 circle fights where you just need to throw a r73

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Because you can use it at high altitudes too to turn harder. Or you should be able to.

You are not just depending on the wings to generate the lift and change of direction.

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