Nonsense because it can’t be worse than the Su-33
Another nonsense from Gaijin. Su-33 should have the highest value of Flaps/polar
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how similar are KnAAPO and Irkut Su-30s? I read about them and get more confused. Are both KnAAPO and Irkut Su-30s derived from Su-27PU, but inspired by their respective previous work experiences (E.g. KnAAPO: Su-35, Irkut: Su-27UB)?
Do Irkut Su-30MKK, Su-30M2 have thrust vectoring? Are the Irkut Su-30 radars worse than KnAAPO Su-30 radars?
Can parts from KnAAPO Su-30 generally be shared with Irkut Su-30?
because no one made a bug report with this “information and open data”, i didn’t even see anyone trying to at least show the reliable sources to fix/improve the fm, so gaijin can do whatever they want if no one shows up to say that they are wrong :D
as far as i know, no one in this thread that wanted to do the bug reports has any sources to fix or improve the su30sm
And book MAI
Early Knaapo SU-30 are based on or with tech from Su-27m. But the one they actually managed to sell don’t have canards. Like Chinese MKK or Venezuela MKV. The one with Canard are made by Irkut MKI, SM their are base on 27UB but with some tech from 27m.
Those are Knaapo. And they don’t have.
This page had a lot of info of it.
MILAVIA Aircraft - Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker Variants List
Usually Irkut use Bars radar. MKK on Chinese one use n001ve. Knaapo Su-35s on Russia use Irbis but Chinese Su-35s have Irbis E.
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i just updated the bug report list with some new ones and some that have been accepted
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i don’t think the posts you quoted will make any bug report to be accepted, especially the canards ones, it doesn’t say how much better the su30sm’s induced drag should be, we don’t even know if this is related to the su30sm or if it’s just a general study related to canards, the video could make the su30 get another nerf but i’m not sure, everywhere online claims something well under 19,300kg for the empty weight
At this point I give up, nerf it even more. Seems to make everyone happy
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we can go raptor pretty soon but not felon
This is a study where the usual Su-27 and Su-27 with canard
Max TR speed 54 deg/sec
Yeah, i know that there’s some conflicting statements. But the Bundeswehr says Mach 2.35, so I’m going with that
Yea the su30 fm just a joke after this nerf
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Wel…
No, the 30sm get the biggest overnerf in the game
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On this moment ( March 2025 ) 30SM2 have updated N011M with increased range for use R-37M, and have AL-31FP. Al-41F still installed only on prototype, but I think after 1-2 mounts we get few serial sm2 with AL-41
