We will have to see, but there’s a good chance that Gaijin won’t directly jump to Su-35 or Su-30SM2 right away (Even though there’s no reason not to IMO), and will instead go with Su-30SM.
AFAIK Su-35 and Su-30SM2 are the only aircrafts in Russian service that use the Irbis-E radar, and Su-30SM only uses the N011M Bars radar.
Still, my point is that when you see -15 degrees listed these radars are not talking about a maximum negative scan limit. They’re talking about the maneuvering air combat vertical scan mode.
Yeah, I understand.
What I mean is that even with the 45 deg electronic steering + 25 deg mechanical steering only in azimuth, it’s not gonna be that great, compared to e.g. RBE2, which currently gets 70 deg electronic steering in both azimuth and elevation (not sure if realistic), or e.g. APG-83 which will come eventually and gets 60 deg electronic steering in both azimuth and elevation.
(60 degrees seem to be quite typical for ESA radars, and seems to be what Irbis-E gets as well, in terms of purely electronic steering)
I seriously doubt the veracity of the claims made from the aforementioned document.
Actually the Su-27sm2 and up have the Irbis-E from the Su-35
And I was making a bug report on that.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/o3EG9wcofUL2
I personally don’t, but even if they are, for some reason understating (which I very much doubt) their capabilities on their export brochures (and these are official documents), at the end of the day, these are the sources that Gaijin will use to implement the radar …
None of existing Su-27SM had radar other than N001
I don’t think Gaijin considers those as acceptable sources.
Oh yeah, sorry all the sources made that up and it dosen’t hold any basis
(sarcasm)
Whats your source for that?
That model Rafale has an AESA Radar, that was the reason
Uh… Yes. Su-27SM2 is testbed. Smth like preSu-35
So they accidentally add the Kfir C.10 block 60… why? Knowing it was the AESA radar that was the primary upgrade for that specific variant? No… they knew it had an AESA or at the very least knew that the RBE2 was a fantastic PESA radar better than anything else in the game at the time.
Yesterday I missed one message (by the way, interesting information), this is not an export version of Bars, but a Russian later version, because the Su-30SM is indicated, and the Su-30SM was not submitted for export, and the Su-30SME has been in Myanmar since December 2022…
So, in principle, there are no contradictions, this is a newer version…
Do you have a link to this site, not a screenshot, to see the year of publication…
Compare with the table here…Increased the number of escorted targets to 25 and the number of attacked targets from 4 to 8…
http://www.xliby.ru/transport_i_aviacija/vzlyot_2007_08_09/p26.php?ysclid=m5z7ehnzdr43921433
I looked through the web archive…The starting date is April 2019.
This is a Irbis with an electrohydraulic suspension of the antenna web, Bars does not have such a thing.
The timer is 00.46 seconds…
https://yandex.ru/video/touch/preview/13289444996999147193
There were no orders, although such an opportunity was present from the very beginning…
An older (2013) version of the NIIP website, Modernization section.
Modernization
At the request of the customer, the BARS radar station can be:
The internet archive link is above the screenshots.
Currently, it seems that www.niip.ru no longer lists the military products on their website; Not sure why …
I’ve already sorted it out and sent you messages (I didn’t edit the message in the translator)…The publication of the section starts on April 27, 2019.
You forget they added the Su-34 with a PESA Radar the update before.
Did they change the Engine on that Su-27sm2? and if they did what engine did they use on it?. You need more power for a radar like IRBIS. Unless is IRBIS-E that was used on Chinese Su-35s that just work on 5kw instead of the 10kw of Russian Su-35s.
