When did flanker start using composites like its siblings in the j11 series of planes.
The dimensions of the Su-35 and CM3 are the same length 21.9 m wingspan 14.7m
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From the screenshot you won’t be able to identify the person so no point
Hello guys, I am thinking about purchasing and tallying the Su-33.
Can I please hear some thoughts or feedback on this
If you think the fun it will net will be worth the money, go for it. No one can make decisions for you. It’s just a heavier Su-27 with better AoA and slightly worse energy retention afaik.
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It doesn’t fly completely horribly now at least, after the FM change.
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No worries! Just wanna hear thoughts, I won’t be playing in 3 months so I just wanted to hear more in depth info regarding it but I think i’ll get it.
I enjoy Su-27S and J-11 so don’t see how I wouldn’t enjoy this!
At 13.0 it has pretty decent kit but as with the other 13.0 Flankers, uptiers are a pain.
You’re not completely helpless, R-27ER still outperforms AIM-120A in terms of range and overall kinematics, and SRH missiles are generally harder to notch in War Thunder compared to ARH.
Radar is definitely the biggest downside.
R-27ET is also an underrated missile, I’ve got a ton of kills on people who think they are Fox 3s and drop only chaff + notch.
Flight-performance wise it’s a bit slower to accelerate and climb.
The first few turns it pulls harder than the Su-27S, which may help you to get more R-73 shot opportunities. But it retains energy much worse.
Unlike the other 13.0 Flankers, Su-33 actually gets decent RWR.
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R-27ER is absolutely insane still and as a sim player I am rly just interested in flying aircraft I am personally interested in and that incl Su-33.
Think I might buy it!
I’d say it’s worth if you don’t have the soviet tree and just want to jump into top tier or if ur a flanker enthusiast and want to collect every variant, the overall performance in RB will be pretty much the same as the regular su-27 with some advantages and disadvantages (half CMs and worse energy retention than the su-27 but 2 more missiles and better rwr).
The su-33 got a lot of hate initially cuz we were expecting a modern variant to compete with the new fighters, but it’s a decent plane.
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It’s better to spend money on ice cream
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You will get sore throat if eat ice cream at winter
I disagree
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highly recommend you give it some extensive test flights - overall its a complete side grade. However, if in your average gameplay the extra AoA and vastly upgraded degree of controllability around stall territory is going to actually come into the equation frequently for you then it can be an upgrade - just need to test fly it to decide that for yourself. Also, you are not going to experiencing barely any of the extra controllability the canards can offer outside of manual(full real) controls - so keep that in mind. Ofc in general buying anything that is not a premium jet or premium time is not at all an effective use of GE, but only you can know how much your time and/or sanity is worth so GE’ing stuff outside of those can absolutely be worth it in that regard.
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Thank you all for taking the time to write such informative comments and aiding in my purchase.
I am a sim player and strictly only so, have had a blast with it so far, even tallied it.
It is an extremely agile bird even compared to Su-27 and J-11, the increased aoa freedom is extreme and is something I am not used to yet but I truly look forward to spending more time with it.
Overall have had so much fun with it flying it alongside Fullbacks and whatnot so cannot wait for more flankers!
As someone who loves flankers, totally worth it!
Thanks again, deeply appreciated, seriously!!
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If you want to sim, dont unless they create 13.3 bracket or drop it down to 13.0.
Its always facing amraams. You wont ever get mainly Fox1 lobbies.
I have no problem facing amraams in Flankers :D
Was worth.
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Speaking of which, I still don’t understand why the base Su-27 is 13.3 in Sim. In Air RB it’s resolutely “mid” at 13.0, even with the improvements. The SPO-15 is still a huge handicap.
This is a common issue for gaijin, their balance sucks and that’s for almost all BRs with some rare exceptions. The su-27 suffers a bit against planes with fox3s but also why should it face phantoms with skyflash and sparrows…
We need the good old decompression
Btw you guys should try naval EC at some point, the balance there is absolute dogcrap
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