Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

I remember seeing a report that it should have a 40° mode too?

Yes, but it is for ≥70 km. But we don’t have different modes for different ranges in game, so it will probably not be added (the 29 also has narrower scan patterns for longer ranges, but they are not in game).

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Just want to say how much of a bummer it is that the SU34 was passed up.

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Damn. I was hoping for 40° just to increase it’s full refresh speed. I would 100% consider change to 60° a 20% nerf.

The radar is unusable in any competitive context at top tier sim. I’d legit consider the 10.7 Viggen radar a 2-3x improvement over current flanker radar

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It’s really lackluster. I’ve been flying the AV-8B+ recently, and IMO this plane’s radar and combat performance in air to air combat far exceeds my 27SM despite being almost a full BR below it and completely lacking a datalink.

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İt isn’t “mostly copy paste”

İt is literally COPY PASTE, exact copy.

Just with more range.

That’s it

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SU30 should have came instead. Or at least the SM3.

But Russian bias.

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some su-30 had same radar as 27SM.
SM3 is basicly 27SM with 2 more hardpoints… lol

And better engines no?

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Su30SM has BARS.

But yes the SM3 is not a massive upgrade, but if USSR has to deal with 2 of the 4 actual DL channels, and the VE radar set, 2 additional hardpoints and better engines would at least compensate slightly. Because god forbid the FM is made realistic/not hampered by the flight instructor.

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some sources states yes, some no

SU-30SM is SU-30SM, not just SU-30 as unknown modification
also, that might be too advanced to game, that doesnt have some of mechanical radars yet

The SU-30 is the SU-27PU. I didn’t think I’d have to specify given the numerous possible variants of the SU-30 and the fact that Russia had 5 PUs and were not renamed to SU-30 until a few years after the PU was made. The SM is the variant Russia actually uses today.

It could easily be balanced by the R-77 being trash if we’re honest.

PESA might lack of implementation then.
and lol, 77s are not worsest, theres still MICA and DERBY/DARTER

At least the darter is decent now but yeah Derby exists.

Though I’d argue the MICA and R77 are kinda on the same plane.

The PESA definitely wouldn’t be used to it’s full potential but at least it would pick up targets. The SMs radar is very, very bad. I think it’d be a good balance.

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Theyre same, difference only few KG

Both bad in BVR and good in WVR, yes

F-15C radar also bad, but in case of Range(cant use TWS when target at distance more than 35-37 NMI), lacks of NCTR. But thats not a reason to add 63V2 or V3 aka AESA

But at least the F15C refreshes each sweep, sweeps faster and has 8 DL channels to the SMs incorrect 2.

Regardless, something needs to change.

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depends on selected scan area

doesnt help in BVR a lot

sadly never used more than 2 in bvr…

It does help though. When guiding via DL, the faster you sweep and refresh, the sooner the missile gets fresh data and it makes less drastic corrections so less speed is lost.

The other issue is the SM sweeping and recapturing so slowly means that a target can easily fly out of the sweep area thus you miss.

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loss of 0.02 mach will not change anything

might be, but very low chances. more looks like warthunder moment