Huh, my post was flagged by someone.
Wasn’t me, idk why that happened
maybe you use the F word? if that was the case you can change it.
No cussing in there.
Using strawman to reject a report is quite funny
I never said that the “1400 kph” is the “rip speed”
I said it’s the structural limit as specified by the manual:
The rip speed in the game of course will be calculated by applying the 1.05 rule that is applied to all planes. There’s no reason why Su-27 should be different (And use a 1.1 multiplier).
Yes the plane doesn’t instantly explode when going over the structural limit (Vne), but neither does any other plane …
“The source only says that at this speed one can fly indefinitely” is also meaningless … Of course it can (like almost all aircrafts can), when the limit is due to structural strength and not due to the engine, as specified by the manual …
The 1.05 rule was confirmed directly by the devs here:
https://community.gaijin.net/p/warthunder/i/VthxlDYIxu05?comment=GVx0lrQoxsxDyyPIdbwOlRxL
@Gunjob can you take a look at this report? It seems the Su-27’s are sitting at 1.1x VNe instead of the 1.05x gaijin states to be their modifier in-game as seen here:
The bug report of the Su-27’s exceeding the 1.05x rule seems to be being stonewalled.
Yeah seems like the tech mod is being obtuse about it. Here’s yandex translated for others who can’t read Russian:
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The answer is, we don’t do any strength studies, but just set values like that.
750х1.85=1387 km/h Where did the number 1530 come from?
Eurofighter GmbH state the top speed at sea level is 825 kts (1,530 km/h).
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su-30sm doesnt need engines it never got.
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But you are the only one showing incompetence. The Su-30SM was not used with AL-41 engines. Never. While the Su-27SM used both AL-31F and AL-31F-M1. I heard that there were even more powerful engines, but I can’t vouch for that. And the F-15E used 229.
If you want Su-30 with good thrust - wait for SM2.
The situation is ridiculous, if we demand Su-30SM with AL-31F-M1, then other nations can justifiably start demanding improved engines for their ac. For example, GE-132 can also be put on F-15E if GE is to be believed.
BTW
you can try to make report in russian, maybe it will work due to different CBRs
I have escalated the issue with senior mods; Waiting for their response …
Idk what the requirements for being a bug reporting manager are but they don’t seem to be that high.
It is just annoying when you have to escalate the bug report through other ways, just because the guy who sees it first thinks it isn’t a legitimate bug report
Like this one:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QmmV3OV8iKgt
Like idk how they can say it isn’t an issue when aloz of ppl have that issue
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I escalated the situation with the “higher ups” and I’ve been basically told that this guy is a member of the Russian team and that “he says that the source doesn’t say anything about Vne”
@Gunjob Perhaps you can try to explain the situation to them …
It quite literally says “Max speed = 1400 km/h. Reason: Structural strength”
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Sacred war against the devs
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Hey @sudo_su1 sorry for the ping, did your report about the radar scale/scan width receive any update? I can’t seem to find it :(
Scan pattern?
Nope … Not forwarded yet …
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Yes
Ah ok thanks for the heads up