Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

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Still plays like a breeze man

I struggle to get the expected results.
In Mirage 2000-5 I do better.
In Rafale and SU-30 I do even better.
I’m playing RB mind you.

So do I

I dislike playing with the EFT due to its crap radar, once i spaded it i never touched the plane again (that was before the Nerf btw). I’m not saying the plane is trash but i simply do not enjoy playing with it… I wish i had the rafale so i could test how good it is.

Bug report:

Su-30SM incorrect IRST scan speed:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Dzvck4b2auRH

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Huh, my post was flagged by someone.

Wasn’t me, idk why that happened

maybe you use the F word? if that was the case you can change it.

No cussing in there.

Using strawman to reject a report is quite funny

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I never said that the “1400 kph” is the “rip speed”
I said it’s the structural limit as specified by the manual:

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The rip speed in the game of course will be calculated by applying the 1.05 rule that is applied to all planes. There’s no reason why Su-27 should be different (And use a 1.1 multiplier).

Yes the plane doesn’t instantly explode when going over the structural limit (Vne), but neither does any other plane …

“The source only says that at this speed one can fly indefinitely” is also meaningless … Of course it can (like almost all aircrafts can), when the limit is due to structural strength and not due to the engine, as specified by the manual …

The 1.05 rule was confirmed directly by the devs here:

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https://community.gaijin.net/p/warthunder/i/VthxlDYIxu05?comment=GVx0lrQoxsxDyyPIdbwOlRxL

@Gunjob can you take a look at this report? It seems the Su-27’s are sitting at 1.1x VNe instead of the 1.05x gaijin states to be their modifier in-game as seen here:

The bug report of the Su-27’s exceeding the 1.05x rule seems to be being stonewalled.

Yeah seems like the tech mod is being obtuse about it. Here’s yandex translated for others who can’t read Russian:

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The answer is, we don’t do any strength studies, but just set values like that.

750х1.85=1387 km/h Where did the number 1530 come from?

Eurofighter GmbH state the top speed at sea level is 825 kts (1,530 km/h).

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su-30sm doesnt need engines it never got.

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But you are the only one showing incompetence. The Su-30SM was not used with AL-41 engines. Never. While the Su-27SM used both AL-31F and AL-31F-M1. I heard that there were even more powerful engines, but I can’t vouch for that. And the F-15E used 229.

If you want Su-30 with good thrust - wait for SM2.

The situation is ridiculous, if we demand Su-30SM with AL-31F-M1, then other nations can justifiably start demanding improved engines for their ac. For example, GE-132 can also be put on F-15E if GE is to be believed.