Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

1530 is its speed on the deck in the game.

1350 is the max speed according to manufacturer. It well could be structural limit, but it’s not clear. I left it to Gaijin to interpret.

If it’s structural limit then its Vne has to be reduced from 1540 to 1.1 * 1350 = 1485.

1.05 is the multiplier used to my understanding.

Flankers use 1.1

Su-27SK manual specifies 1400 on the deck, in the game it has 1540 Vne

real russia bias

Anything to show that developers purposely use 1.1 multiplier? Maybe like a dev response?

Are you sure that the multiplier is 1.05 for other planes?
IDK, maybe make a report and let’s see what they say.

https://archive.org/details/su-27-sk-aircraft-flight-operations-manual-book-1/page/n13/mode/2up

The multiplier of 1.05 is universal across all planes. It’s possible no one reported the Su-27SK’s topspeed just like the other sukhois and thus the current topspeed.

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@MiG_23M @terminaruse

An example of how much fuel is included for normal takeoff weight from the Sukhoi website (Su-27SK)

5270 / 9400 ~= 0.56

Su-27UBK’s listing uses the same fuel fraction as well.

Su-30MK’s listing uses the same 5270kg fuel amount, despite higher capacity.

5270 / 9640 ~= 0.547

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Bug report:

Su-27, J-11 incorrect rip speed:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ApQSGr7WhfPc

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Giving me inspiration to start nerfing my favorite plans asap too. It’s inspiring for people to show that they want their favorite vehicles to be accurate.

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@sudo_su1 Since you’re doing those reports for the Su-27 family of aircraft, what do you think about the potential of adding S-8PM chaffs for them?

Well, I had no idea those existed before you mentioned them

One could do a report, but as with all armaments, at best they are gonna be forwarded as a suggestion …

And I think they will be quite difficult to use …

They are basically forward launching chaffs for B-8 rocket tubes. Nothing special but it can be pretty useful. They should be launched in game with same button like other countermeasures (not button for rockets).

That might not be realistic … And I bet Gaijin would require a source for it …

You’re right. A button for firing unguided rockets would be more realistic for that chaff variant. Btw there was some info about S-8PM on old ROE website.

Could u explain how it works? Is it basically just S8 but with chaff warhead? Or is there more to it than that.

Its S-8 with chaff warhead.
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But wouldn’t that mean the plane will fly through the chaff? Or does it have some other design?

wasnt it 1.5?

Probably it will if you wont turn. But hard to say. There is not much information about that.