Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

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I’m just saying there are conflicting information from different sources.

Brochure says 25300 @ 15.3m but the KnAAPO website says 25300 @ 14.7m

It’s possible that the brochure is specifying the max possible wingspan rather than the 25300 figure being at the said wingspan (I.e. with the jamming pods).

If you check the other links that I’ve posted, the UAC website also lists 25300 kg @ 14.7m

And for example in the Su-32 brochure, they specifically list the jamming pods along the missiles when they want to list the maximum speed:

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The Su-35s Brochure its the oldest form of info we have on the plane. I know that with time they change and even started to state that these number are with Khibiny.

It don’t make sense for them to measure the plane with the Pod. Them remove and add the missile/fuel to found what was the gross weight. Specially when these Pod remove the posibility to use R-73 in the outer pilons.

If the plane in game will weight 19000 tons. Then the plane should come with the Khibiny pod by default. So far gaijin hasn’t add these pod for the aircraft in game that could use them. So the 19000tons figure its off. Same with RCS. The Aircraft is suppose to have RAM coating in some area. So the Su-35s should have smaller RCS in game than other Flankers. If not, the Weight should be also be lowered. RAM weight a lot.

Boeing confirms 12

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22 might have been a typo in early stage of project. you would need to have a seriously wierd loadout to get 22 amraams

No, technically it can carry up to 24 but it is only cleared for 12 officially until they finish current integration, testing, etc. Afaik the currently in-service F-15EX’s have not been equipped with the CFT’s required to mount additional missiles.

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thats 4 quad racks (2 per wing) and 4 double CFT racks right?

Sounds right, but we will see what it ends up being cleared with ultimately. Technically I think the F-22 can carry up to 22 missiles as well if it feels like mounting the quad racks.

i heard the quad racks are only good for transporting missiles a little while back, is this just untrue or has there been a development in this area?

would be pretty nice to have 22 AMRAAM or maybe JATM on an F-22

Community Bug Reporting System just noticed sudo’s report on su-34 max speed was accepted. I’m excited to see what will be the dev’s final position

The quad packs are designed to launch AMRAAM’s offensively, not just carry them. That’s what cargo aircraft are for.

The quad pack was first designed in an effort to sell F-15’s in ~2016 through an upgrade known as the “Eagle 2040C”.

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Me when I shoot off 6 of the longest range missiles in game at a single player. (None of them hit. This process will repeat tenfold)

I’m kinda waiting for the devs to respond: “Nah”

Also not sure what’s going on with these:

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Relying on “estimations” over primary sources

And not taking into account that the FP variant could have more advanced and more expensive weight reduction techniques applied to its design and construction to compensate for the longer length and additional thrust vectoring stuff.

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For a 4-channel PESA I wouldn’t be surprised if it could guide 4, but it’s more than likely some nuance I don’t know about

Max speed is 1350 on the deck, 1530 is nothing but its structural limit at 0m.

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Was this a tech mod response or dev response, I’m curious

I would imagine a dev

1530 is its speed on the deck in the game.

1350 is the max speed according to manufacturer. It well could be structural limit, but it’s not clear. I left it to Gaijin to interpret.

If it’s structural limit then its Vne has to be reduced from 1540 to 1.1 * 1350 = 1485.

1.05 is the multiplier used to my understanding.

Flankers use 1.1

Su-27SK manual specifies 1400 on the deck, in the game it has 1540 Vne