Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Su-30M2


I like the orange stickers on the nose lol

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If we assume the brochures are authentic (and correct, i.e. no fake information from the manufacturer due to some information being classified), and assume that Su-32 and Su-34E are the same and should have the same max speed on the deck:

Given that the 1100 kph figure is listed for Su-34E/32:

1- Without external stores
2- With only 4x AAMs
3- With 4x AAMs + 6 bombs

It’s very much possible that the limit could be structural …

That would mean that the wing rip limit would have to be lowered to around 1.1 * 1100 kph = 1210 kph in the game …

Add another magic 15%

doesnt it 1.05 from IRL to WT?

Well, the Su-27 family seems to be having a 1.1 multiplier.

Su-27SK manual specifies a 1400 kph max speed due to structural limit.
Su-27/Su-27SM/J-11 get a 1540 kph wing rip speed in WT. So a 1.1 multiplier.

I now know why the bug reporting managers are anonymous


@Gunjob could you pls take a look at this.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QmmV3OV8iKgt

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TBF it was a bit difficult to see the problem :)

Perhaps put a marker around those symbols on the screenshot where they are present and where they are missing, so the tech mod can understand what’s going on …

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I mean they are right, you didn’t provide any sources.

You need to show what the real symbology looks like. Some aircraft don’t display NCTR information on the HUD IRL, only the radar screen.

No it’s not…

You’re looking at the flight range, not the speed.

It is missing symbology in simulator difficulty it has in RB

I don’t think I need to provide sources for that

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@Flame2512 I saw what you deleted

RB:

Sim:

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My bad I thought you were referring to the green game UI, didn’t notice the HUD text.
image

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Yeah I deleted it because I realised I’d made a mistake and explained that mistake in the comment I just posted.

No problem.

It is just weird to me that the Hud works differently in RB and Sim even tho it shouldn’t.
The same thing happened to the EF as well.

Like idk how that even happens.

damm , my bad

Same thing :)

That’s why I asked him to mark it for the tech mod.

Wow thats unplayable…

On another note though, does anyone know why the Su-27’s, all variants including 30SM, are missing datalink? I know some craft like Rafale and Eurofighter get them, but Su-27’s should have them too no? I know its modeled in DCS, so im not sure what gives here.

I think its called the Nartsiss Datalink or something. I dont have anything on it, except from this one quote.

“1.A target with an altitude line, a velocity vector, mixing up from the leading link (not solidified) 2.The Goal number 3.A target with a”

Seems weird

So i came here because yall are really knowledgeable on sukhois i need tips for stock grinding Su30 please am 15 battles in and i keep dieing before making any score